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Park Road 18 Jan 18 2.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I don't understand why others want to revise stories like this. If you saw an 'alien' craft at close quarters, I'm damn sure you would know it wasn't the weather, a star, a lighthouse or some other nonsense. The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs. I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain. Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc.. If you you live in wales a sheep. But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today. Not to say we won't .
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18 Jan 18 2.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't understand why others want to revise stories like this. If you saw an 'alien' craft at close quarters, I'm damn sure you would know it wasn't the weather, a star, a lighthouse or some other nonsense.

The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs.

I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain.
Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc..
If you you live in wales a sheep.

But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today.

Not to say we won't .

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Sheks Crows Eye Virginia 18 Jan 18 2.38pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I don't understand why others want to revise stories like this. If you saw an 'alien' craft at close quarters, I'm damn sure you would know it wasn't the weather, a star, a lighthouse or some other nonsense. Rollo, care to describe your close encounter?
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Virginia 18 Jan 18 2.38pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Rollo, care to describe your close encounter?

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Jan 18 3.06pm
I suspect it was a hoax as well. However this was a US airbase it is possible they were testing an experimental aircraft like the stealth fighter. Just because it is a UFO doesn't mean it is aliens just unidentified. One more point
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Beckenham 18 Jan 18 3.06pm

I suspect it was a hoax as well. However this was a US airbase it is possible they were testing an experimental aircraft like the stealth fighter. Just because it is a UFO doesn't mean it is aliens just unidentified.

One more point

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 18 3.07pm
Originally posted by Sheks Crows Eye Rollo, care to describe your close encounter? Well, I did see a 'UFO' when I was a kid which was pretty persuasive but it is more what I have learned from reliable sources if there is such a thing. The one I saw was the type that flies in a straight line but can then stop instantly and turn at right angles, eventually zooming off at an unimaginable speed. I understand the issues with lone sightings of course. No one believes you for a start.
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18 Jan 18 3.07pm

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Originally posted by Sheks Crows Eye

Rollo, care to describe your close encounter?

Well, I did see a 'UFO' when I was a kid which was pretty persuasive but it is more what I have learned from reliable sources if there is such a thing.

The one I saw was the type that flies in a straight line but can then stop instantly and turn at right angles, eventually zooming off at an unimaginable speed.
I understand the issues with lone sightings of course. No one believes you for a start.

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 18 3.22pm
Originally posted by Park Road The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs. I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain. Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc.. If you you live in wales a sheep. But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today. Not to say we won't . The question I always ask is, how much evidence are you likely to get? And, what would it take to convince you that 'aliens' have been here? Such questions are part of the problem with he whole subject.
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Hrolf The Ganger

18 Jan 18 3.22pm

Originally posted by Park Road

The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs.

But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today.

Not to say we won't .

The question I always ask is, how much evidence are you likely to get?
And, what would it take to convince you that 'aliens' have been here?
Such questions are part of the problem with he whole subject.

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matthau South Croydon 18 Jan 18 3.37pm
Originally posted by Park Road The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs. I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain. Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc.. If you you live in wales a sheep. But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today. Not to say we won't . DMT: the spirit molecule, full documentary found on you tube/Netflix. then try some. you'll soon change your tune, no belief required, absolute first hand experience.
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South Croydon 18 Jan 18 3.37pm

Originally posted by Park Road

The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs.

But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today.

Not to say we won't .

DMT: the spirit molecule, full documentary found on you tube/Netflix.

then try some.

you'll soon change your tune, no belief required, absolute first hand experience.

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Park Road 18 Jan 18 3.44pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The question I always ask is, how much evidence are you likely to get? And, what would it take to convince you that 'aliens' have been here? Such questions are part of the problem with he whole subject. My question is how far are they coming from? What speed bar that of light can be achieved? Why not say hello? Bottom line no evidence. Then there are all the theories, wormholes, dimensions et al, all needing a PhD in astro physics or something similar to understand. My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation
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18 Jan 18 3.44pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

My question is how far are they coming from?
What speed bar that of light can be achieved?
Why not say hello?
Bottom line no evidence.
Then there are all the theories, wormholes, dimensions et al, all needing a PhD in astro physics or something similar to understand.

My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation

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Lyons550 Shirley 18 Jan 18 3.49pm
Originally posted by Park Road The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs. I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain. Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc.. If you you live in wales a sheep. But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today. Not to say we won't . That's just how the current world labels apparitions though due to its inability to comprehend what it may well be...surely? Is it really proof of life after death? or is it a memory/recording of a moment in time that replays itself? Ghost is just a tag for something we dont know how to explain ....should they actually exist that is. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 18 Jan 18 3.49pm

Originally posted by Park Road

The brain plays tricks on you- from seeing a white light in near death experiences to seeing ghosts and UFOs.

I'm not dismissing anything when it comes to UFOs, ghosts yes as I don't believe in life after death, near death experience has more or less a theory lack of oxygen to the brain.
Also, depending where in the world you are sometimes people see Jesus willing you towards the light, if your middle eastern its Allah, Buddhist buda etc..
If you you live in wales a sheep.

But there still is no conclusive evidence that we have been visited even with all the technology we have today.

Not to say we won't .

That's just how the current world labels apparitions though due to its inability to comprehend what it may well be...surely? Is it really proof of life after death? or is it a memory/recording of a moment in time that replays itself?

Ghost is just a tag for something we dont know how to explain ....should they actually exist that is.

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 18 3.52pm
Originally posted by Park Road My question is how far are they coming from? What speed bar that of light can be achieved? Why not say hello? Bottom line no evidence. Then there are all the theories, wormholes, dimensions et al, all needing a PhD in astro physics or something similar to understand. My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation All we really need to understand is that we don't understand. That allows for all possibilities.
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18 Jan 18 3.52pm

Originally posted by Park Road

My question is how far are they coming from?
What speed bar that of light can be achieved?
Why not say hello?
Bottom line no evidence.
Then there are all the theories, wormholes, dimensions et al, all needing a PhD in astro physics or something similar to understand.

My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation

All we really need to understand is that we don't understand. That allows for all possibilities.

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Park Road 18 Jan 18 3.55pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 That's just how the current world labels apparitions though due to its inability to comprehend what it may well be...surely? Is it really proof of life after death? or is it a memory/recording of a moment in time that replays itself? Ghost is just a tag for something we dont know how to explain ....should they actually exist that is. I think you nailed it there. Apparitions, is all they are. What they are? again is down to interpretation, but I think under scientific examination most cases can be rationally explained Edited by Park Road (18 Jan 2018 3.57pm)
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Park Road

18 Jan 18 3.55pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Ghost is just a tag for something we dont know how to explain ....should they actually exist that is.

I think you nailed it there. Apparitions, is all they are.
What they are? again is down to interpretation, but I think under scientific examination most cases can be rationally explained

Edited by Park Road (18 Jan 2018 3.57pm)

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Lyons550 Shirley 18 Jan 18 3.57pm
Originally posted by Park Road My question is how far are they coming from? What speed bar that of light can be achieved? Why not say hello? Bottom line no evidence. Then there are all the theories, wormholes, dimensions et al, all needing a PhD in astro physics or something similar to understand. My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation Have you seen the documentary ' Unacknowledged'? If not worth a look. Plenty of everyday service men and women are now coming out saying they've experienced stuff...hell even the former Defence Minister of Canada has admitted that they're here ...still undecided myself...but there's definitely a 'swell' of previously hidden witnesses coming to the fore because they know they wont immediately be laughed out of town and lose their jobs over it. [Link] The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 18 Jan 18 3.57pm

Originally posted by Park Road

My knowledge comes from star trek, however, I will say as a kid I saw a ghost with my friend, won't go into it memory fades but sure there's a perfectly rational explanation

Have you seen the documentary ' Unacknowledged'? If not worth a look. Plenty of everyday service men and women are now coming out saying they've experienced stuff...hell even the former Defence Minister of Canada has admitted that they're here ...still undecided myself...but there's definitely a 'swell' of previously hidden witnesses coming to the fore because they know they wont immediately be laughed out of town and lose their jobs over it.

[Link]

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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Jan 18 3.59pm
Originally posted by Park Road I think you nailed it there. Apparitions, is all they are. What they are again is down to interpretation, but I think under scientific, Examination most cases can be rationally explained I know that people really do see dead people that seem as real as anything else. Of that, I've no doubt. Whether those people exist outside of the mind is far more doubtful.
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18 Jan 18 3.59pm

Originally posted by Park Road

I think you nailed it there. Apparitions, is all they are.
What they are again is down to interpretation, but I think under scientific, Examination most cases can be rationally explained

I know that people really do see dead people that seem as real as anything else. Of that, I've no doubt. Whether those people exist outside of the mind is far more doubtful.

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