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View Karlosfandango's Profile Karlosfandango Flag Norfolk 20 Nov 18 11.24am Send a Private Message to Karlosfandango Add Karlosfandango as a friend

Bad pitch

 

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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 20 Nov 18 11.33am Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Whilst we have had some terrific strikers over the years, my word we have had some bad ones.

This guy must fall into this category.

He can be welcomed by Ade Akinbiyi, Wayne Andrews, Calvin Andrew, Sandor Torgelle, Aaron Wilbraham amongst others.

Shortly to be joined by Jordan Ayew I suspect.

 

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View Dannyh.V2's Profile Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 20 Nov 18 12.23pm Send a Private Message to Dannyh.V2 Add Dannyh.V2 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Let me speak slowly , if you read my post you will see that I am not comparing Sorloth to Slah in terms of ability, I am making the point that it is not possible to judge whether a player will be up to a task until he has had sufficient game time and starts.

Speak slowly ?? Did you type that slowly so I could understand

The ball crashingly obvious point here is that players don't just turn up on a Sunday Morning, half pissed and put some boots on for 20 mins to see if they are worth a start next game.

The coach and staff watch and train with the player 5 days a week, where he is constantly being drilled skilled and assesed, he has had that since he joined the club, and was STILL overlooked in favour of Wilf and Andros upfront.

Last nights game for Norway goes some way to proving my point, he can't finish his dinner.

And yes it is possible to judge a player from his training and attitude, how do you think Wan Bissake got his chance.

Your being naive, he is clearly not Premiership Standard, and my guess is he will leave in Jan or the summer once we have a replacement.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 20 Nov 18 12.40pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Let me speak SSSSSssssslllllllloooooowwwllllyyy

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 20 Nov 18 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Probably could score goals in the Championship so should be retained given our trajectory of travel.

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 20 Nov 18 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

Whilst we have had some terrific strikers over the years, my word we have had some bad ones.

This guy must fall into this category.

He can be welcomed by Ade Akinbiyi, Wayne Andrews, Calvin Andrew, Sandor Torgelle, Aaron Wilbraham amongst others.

Shortly to be joined by Jordan Ayew I suspect.

Some of those at least put a bit of effort in

 

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View michaelpearce's Profile michaelpearce Flag grays 20 Nov 18 1.31pm Send a Private Message to michaelpearce Add michaelpearce as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

Speak slowly ?? Did you type that slowly so I could understand

The ball crashingly obvious point here is that players don't just turn up on a Sunday Morning, half pissed and put some boots on for 20 mins to see if they are worth a start next game.

The coach and staff watch and train with the player 5 days a week, where he is constantly being drilled skilled and assesed, he has had that since he joined the club, and was STILL overlooked in favour of Wilf and Andros upfront.

Last nights game for Norway goes some way to proving my point, he can't finish his dinner.

And yes it is possible to judge a player from his training and attitude, how do you think Wan Bissake got his chance.

Your being naive, he is clearly not Premiership Standard, and my guess is he will leave in Jan or the summer once we have a replacement.

injury list was so long we had no choice thats how he got his chance and he took it

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 20 Nov 18 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

Speak slowly ?? Did you type that slowly so I could understand

The ball crashingly obvious point here is that players don't just turn up on a Sunday Morning, half pissed and put some boots on for 20 mins to see if they are worth a start next game.

The coach and staff watch and train with the player 5 days a week, where he is constantly being drilled skilled and assesed, he has had that since he joined the club, and was STILL overlooked in favour of Wilf and Andros upfront.

Last nights game for Norway goes some way to proving my point, he can't finish his dinner.

And yes it is possible to judge a player from his training and attitude, how do you think Wan Bissake got his chance.

Your being naive, he is clearly not Premiership Standard, and my guess is he will leave in Jan or the summer once we have a replacement.

I agree with you, people saying he hasnít had game time etc, donít realise he hasnít played as he is useless. The miss last night for Noreay was no surprise.
If you have any quality it shows from your first game for the first team, most recently AWB.
The people asking to give him a game and time, were asking for Benteke to be sent to the reserves recently.

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 20 Nov 18 2.28pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

We will stay up, he will go to the Championship and score a hatful of goals, fire his team into the Premiership and then get sold to another Championship, where he will score more goals - repeat. Every time he scores, someone will come on here and say that we should never have sold him and that he would have scored 20 goals a season if only we had kept the faith.

 

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View Dannyh.V2's Profile Dannyh.V2 Flag Stone lickers 20 Nov 18 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Dannyh.V2 Add Dannyh.V2 as a friend

Originally posted by dp

We will stay up, he will go to the Championship and score a hatful of goals, fire his team into the Premiership and then get sold to another Championship, where he will score more goals - repeat. Every time he scores, someone will come on here and say that we should never have sold him and that he would have scored 20 goals a season if only we had kept the faith.

There is no proof or tarck record that backs up that theory throughout his career he struggled to score until he wound up in the Danish league, which if you've ever watched it is worse than the Scottish 3rd tier.

If you want any further evidence of his unerring ability to turn certain goals into Goal kicks then a quick look on YouTube for his chances last night, and the one against Spuds should show you.

Secondly I would like to ask what fuels peoples blind optimism with regards to s*** players that we have signed i.e. Mutch, Sanogoals, Lee, Sorloth, Akinbruno, to name but a few.

Sorloth Your just a s*** Aaron Wilbraham

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Online Flag 20 Nov 18 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Yes I fully agree. Its a sad state of affairs when we are pining for Benteke. No sure what else we can do. I have next to no expectations in January.

Then pine for Wickham instead

Wickham - a player who hasnt been fit for 2 years and may never fully recover.

Benteke - a player who scored 3 goals last year, and must have missed at least 20 good clean, solid chances to score.

We must buy.

What warms my cockles is Hodgson is already saying we have no money etc etc. This is Parish up to his fake news tricks again. Its EXACTLY what he and the manager were saying before the Sakho signing, then suddenly we stump up 26 million quid.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 20 Nov 18 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

When considering Sorloth, I find it interesting to compare him with players like Glenn Murray and Yannick Bolasie. I wonder how either of those to would have fared had we been where we are now when we signed them.

My hunch is Murray would initially have struggled terribly. I mean he did initially in the championship, and the pressure would be multiples higher in the prem. And yet, he cut it. And had he not had his injury, maybe he'd still be playing up front for us today as he'd have carried on where he left off for us in the championship.

Likewise Yala. So many flaws, but many of them either concealed or ironed out by working his bollocks off. He'd have been dumped overnight if we got him for peanuts from some lower league side and he hit the kinds of terrible crosses that he sometimes did. And may would have slagged him off. Just like many Everton fans actually did.

It's so EASY to dismiss a player who's making his way. And Sorloth for sure has many serious flaws to fix...but maybe he will do precisely that.

I think he has respectable pace over 30/40 yards, good awareness when in possession, and okay physicality (despite being a little weak in the air)...I believe in him. (And never called for Benteke to be benched).

 

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