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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 19 Mar 18 10.49am
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He’s going to be a PL superstar for us. A goal machine.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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dp Tunbridge Wells 19 Mar 18 11.30am
Originally posted by Uphill 'Championship Standard' ?? Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up. It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season. 70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players. We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players. The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good.
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Originally posted by Uphill

'Championship Standard' ??

Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up.

It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season.

70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players.

We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players.

The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 19 Mar 18 1.18pm
Originally posted by dp Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up. It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season. 70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players. We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players. The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good. Literally one of the best posts I’ve ever read on here. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Originally posted by dp

Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up.

It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season.

70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players.

We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players.

Literally one of the best posts I’ve ever read on here.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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eddiqc Tunbridge wells 19 Mar 18 1.18pm
Can't really judge Sorloth on the 4 games, 3 of which were against top teams. A player generally needs time to adapt to a new club as well, give the lad a chance please people. I don't understand why some people are so negative and will never pass up a chance to criticise player when they play badly. Being positive helps, we need to support our players and show them that we are behind them 100%, even if they play badly sometimes.
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Tunbridge wells 19 Mar 18 1.18pm

Can't really judge Sorloth on the 4 games, 3 of which were against top teams. A player generally needs time to adapt to a new club as well, give the lad a chance please people.
I don't understand why some people are so negative and will never pass up a chance to criticise player when they play badly.
Being positive helps, we need to support our players and show them that we are behind them 100%, even if they play badly sometimes.

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FairweatherEagle London 19 Mar 18 1.48pm
Originally posted by dp Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up. It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season. 70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players. We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players. The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good. "Most" of the players in the premiership are premiership standard, as they constitute the majority of players in the premiership. I.e. the average quality of a player is defined by the quality of the majority of players in the league, in effect. I think what you're actually saying, is that the gap between lower-mid premiership and champ is not that big, and I agree. Rest of your post is right, quality players ain't cheap.
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Originally posted by dp

Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up.

It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season.

70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players.

We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players.

"Most" of the players in the premiership are premiership standard, as they constitute the majority of players in the premiership. I.e. the average quality of a player is defined by the quality of the majority of players in the league, in effect. I think what you're actually saying, is that the gap between lower-mid premiership and champ is not that big, and I agree. Rest of your post is right, quality players ain't cheap.

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dp Tunbridge Wells 19 Mar 18 2.49pm
Originally posted by FairweatherEagle "Most" of the players in the premiership are premiership standard, as they constitute the majority of players in the premiership. I.e. the average quality of a player is defined by the quality of the majority of players in the league, in effect. I think what you're actually saying, is that the gap between lower-mid premiership and champ is not that big, and I agree. Rest of your post is right, quality players ain't cheap. Seems like we are in violent agreement then. My point about "Championship Quality" is that you can say that Sorloth is "Championship Quality" but that applies to the majority of players in the Premiership. It is wrong for us to label Sorloth as Championship Quality as if that is some sort of guarantee that he is doomed to fail in the Premiership. Plenty of Championship Quality players have done well in the Premiership.
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Tunbridge Wells 19 Mar 18 2.49pm

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

Seems like we are in violent agreement then. My point about "Championship Quality" is that you can say that Sorloth is "Championship Quality" but that applies to the majority of players in the Premiership. It is wrong for us to label Sorloth as Championship Quality as if that is some sort of guarantee that he is doomed to fail in the Premiership. Plenty of Championship Quality players have done well in the Premiership.

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spartakev2 Anerley 19 Mar 18 8.04pm
Originally posted by dp Seems like we are in violent agreement then. My point about "Championship Quality" is that you can say that Sorloth is "Championship Quality" but that applies to the majority of players in the Premiership. It is wrong for us to label Sorloth as Championship Quality as if that is some sort of guarantee that he is doomed to fail in the Premiership. Plenty of Championship Quality players have done well in the Premiership. Surely if they do well in the premietship that makes them premiership quality?
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Anerley 19 Mar 18 8.04pm

Originally posted by dp

Surely if they do well in the premietship that makes them premiership quality?

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michaelpearce grays 19 Mar 18 8.17pm
Leicester won the league with championship players,would say half a squad in 13 clubs have good championship players, only first 11 are premiership players,and you need to look at the top end to see quality players in numbers
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Leicester won the league with championship players,would say half a squad in 13 clubs have good championship players, only first 11 are premiership players,and you need to look at the top end to see quality players in numbers

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Painter Croydon 19 Mar 18 8.18pm
Originally posted by dp Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up. It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season. 70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players. We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players. The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good. How do you know, if a manager is Premiership quality, unless they are given a chance. At the moment, we have a merry go round of sacked Premier managers being employed again by other Premier clubs. By definition, they aren't any good because they were sacked by their previous clubs, some sacked by many clubs, it doesn't make sense. Recently Pardew, Lambert, Moyes and Hughes have all been given Premiership clubs, after being an abject failure at their previous clubs. You can take a chance of Championship standard players, as they may improve, but handing the running of your team to a serial failure as a manager is what seems to happen in football. The most bizarre appointment is Martin Allen at Barnet, after being sacked 4 times by Barnet in the past.
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Originally posted by dp

Most of the players in the Premiership are Championship Standard. Which is why the teams that get relegated struggle to get back up.

It is also why players such as Glenn Murray, Sam Vokes, Callum Wilson etc. etc. do well. And why Brighton, Newcastle and Huddersfield are doing alright this season.

70% of the Premiership Sides in the division are a mixture of 1-5 Premiership Standard players, and 20-24 Championship Standard players.

We should stop denigrating Championship Standard players; and we should stop thinking that we are all of a sudden going to be able to sign 25 Premiership Standard players.

The difference is a Premiership standard manager. We are where we were because of RdB, and we are where we are because of Roy. We need to stop burning through Premiership quality managers, everything else will come good.

How do you know, if a manager is Premiership quality, unless they are given a chance. At the moment, we have a merry go round of sacked Premier managers being employed again by other Premier clubs.
By definition, they aren't any good because they were sacked by their previous clubs, some sacked by many clubs, it doesn't make sense.
Recently Pardew, Lambert, Moyes and Hughes have all been given Premiership clubs, after being an abject failure at their previous clubs.
You can take a chance of Championship standard players, as they may improve, but handing the running of your team to a serial failure as a manager is what seems to happen in football.
The most bizarre appointment is Martin Allen at Barnet, after being sacked 4 times by Barnet in the past.

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buzzby West Sussex 20 Mar 18 10.18am
Whats a Championship Player Sorloth has been played out of position, but has put in more effort than Benteke. Most players need time to adapt. Originally posted by dp Seems like we are in violent agreement then. My point about "Championship Quality" is that you can say that Sorloth is "Championship Quality" but that applies to the majority of players in the Premiership. It is wrong for us to label Sorloth as Championship Quality as if that is some sort of guarantee that he is doomed to fail in the Premiership. Plenty of Championship Quality players have done well in the Premiership. Edited by buzzby (20 Mar 2018 10.18am) rub a dub dub who's buying the next round in the Pub?
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West Sussex 20 Mar 18 10.18am

Whats a Championship Player
Sorloth has been played out of position, but has put in more effort than Benteke.
Most players need time to adapt.

Originally posted by dp

Edited by buzzby (20 Mar 2018 10.18am)

rub a dub dub who's buying the next round in the Pub?

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dp Tunbridge Wells 20 Mar 18 2.47pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Surely if they do well in the premietship that makes them premiership quality? Yes. That was my point.
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Tunbridge Wells 20 Mar 18 2.47pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

Surely if they do well in the premietship that makes them premiership quality?

Yes. That was my point.

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dp Tunbridge Wells 20 Mar 18 2.49pm
Originally posted by Painter How do you know, if a manager is Premiership quality, unless they are given a chance. At the moment, we have a merry go round of sacked Premier managers being employed again by other Premier clubs. By definition, they aren't any good because they were sacked by their previous clubs, some sacked by many clubs, it doesn't make sense. Recently Pardew, Lambert, Moyes and Hughes have all been given Premiership clubs, after being an abject failure at their previous clubs. You can take a chance of Championship standard players, as they may improve, but handing the running of your team to a serial failure as a manager is what seems to happen in football. The point that I was trying to make is that we have been burning through proven Premiership Quality managers recently. (i.e. Managers who have proven that they can perform for us in the Premiership). That includes Pulis and Allardyce. We need to stop doing that, and keep hold of Roy.
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Tunbridge Wells 20 Mar 18 2.49pm

Originally posted by Painter

The point that I was trying to make is that we have been burning through proven Premiership Quality managers recently. (i.e. Managers who have proven that they can perform for us in the Premiership). That includes Pulis and Allardyce. We need to stop doing that, and keep hold of Roy.

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