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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 20 Mar 18 2.57pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by buzzby

Whats a Championship Player
Sorloth has been played out of position, but has put in more effort than Benteke.
Most players need time to adapt.

Edited by buzzby (20 Mar 2018 10.18am)

A Championship player is one that will do well in the Championship. It applies to many of the players who are playing in the Premiership. Most of the sides in the Premiership have plenty of Championship quality players and a few Premiership quality players.

Sorloth is a Championship quality player. It doesn't mean that he won't be successful for us in the Premiership. But you wouldn't place him in the same bracket as Aguero, Sanchez, Salah, Lukaku et al.

I would put him in the same bracket as Ashley Barnes, Sam Vokes and a fair few ex-Palace strikers who are doing OK in the Premiership. Still plenty capable of doing a job for us.

It is no criticism, in my view, to say someone is Championship Quality. Teams like Palace are rarely likely to have more than 4 or 5 Premiership Quality players and we need to make up the numbers with decent Championship players.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 20 Mar 18 4.19pm

Originally posted by dp

A Championship player is one that will do well in the Championship. It applies to many of the players who are playing in the Premiership. Most of the sides in the Premiership have plenty of Championship quality players and a few Premiership quality players.

Sorloth is a Championship quality player. It doesn't mean that he won't be successful for us in the Premiership. But you wouldn't place him in the same bracket as Aguero, Sanchez, Salah, Lukaku et al.

I would put him in the same bracket as Ashley Barnes, Sam Vokes and a fair few ex-Palace strikers who are doing OK in the Premiership. Still plenty capable of doing a job for us.

It is no criticism, in my view, to say someone is Championship Quality. Teams like Palace are rarely likely to have more than 4 or 5 Premiership Quality players and we need to make up the numbers with decent Championship players.

There is however players that belong in the championship and can’t cut it in the PL. not naming any names.

 


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Originally posted by dp

A Championship player is one that will do well in the Championship. It applies to many of the players who are playing in the Premiership. Most of the sides in the Premiership have plenty of Championship quality players and a few Premiership quality players.

Sorloth is a Championship quality player. It doesn't mean that he won't be successful for us in the Premiership. But you wouldn't place him in the same bracket as Aguero, Sanchez, Salah, Lukaku et al.

I would put him in the same bracket as Ashley Barnes, Sam Vokes and a fair few ex-Palace strikers who are doing OK in the Premiership. Still plenty capable of doing a job for us.

It is no criticism, in my view, to say someone is Championship Quality. Teams like Palace are rarely likely to have more than 4 or 5 Premiership Quality players and we need to make up the numbers with decent Championship players.

strange to pick these as being representative of typical PL players. They're among the best in the division.

I'd pick someone like Townsend or Tomkins.

But more to the point, how anyone can instantly really categorize a player who's been thrown into a league 2 or 3 tiers above their previous playing level -- and was basically in a kind of pre season -- is beyond me.

Nobody knows what Sorloth can achieve.

 


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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

strange to pick these as being representative of typical PL players. They're among the best in the division.

I'd pick someone like Townsend or Tomkins.

But more to the point, how anyone can instantly really categorize a player who's been thrown into a league 2 or 3 tiers above their previous playing level -- and was basically in a kind of pre season -- is beyond me.

Nobody knows what Sorloth can achieve.

Agree with this 100%. I think its exciting that we dont know if hes the new wonder kid rather than have the expectation of a proven player like benteke and then not perform.

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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

strange to pick these as being representative of typical PL players. They're among the best in the division.

I'd pick someone like Townsend or Tomkins.

But more to the point, how anyone can instantly really categorize a player who's been thrown into a league 2 or 3 tiers above their previous playing level -- and was basically in a kind of pre season -- is beyond me.

Nobody knows what Sorloth can achieve.

To be clear, it is not me who has branded Sorloth a Championship Player. If you read the whole thread then you will see that certain people on here have been branding Sorloth a "Championship Player" like it is some kind of criticism of him. I was reacting to that.

 

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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

There is however players that belong in the championship and can’t cut it in the PL. not naming any names.

Exactly, and when you say "championship player" that clearly implies you think they are not good enough for the PL. We seem to be getting rather lose with what "championship player" actually means all of a sudden on this thread.

I mean I could just as easily say I think Sorloth is a "league 2" player, but that doesn't mean he won't do well in the prem?

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 22 Mar 18 8.10am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

Exactly, and when you say "championship player" that clearly implies you think they are not good enough for the PL. We seem to be getting rather lose with what "championship player" actually means all of a sudden on this thread.

I mean I could just as easily say I think Sorloth is a "league 2" player, but that doesn't mean he won't do well in the prem?

Isn’t that the point? The term is woolly, and completely driven by opinion. It is constantly in flux as well, so a Premiership player one year, is not able to reach those heights the following season.

You can pick a handful of players that are Premiership quality, but the jury is out for the majority.

 

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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 22 Mar 18 11.42am Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

Sorry but I've just read 2 pages and can't see anything on Sorloth's injury.

Mods, could we create a separate topic and move all the posts about whether he's Championship quality or not in there?

Does anyone have an update on Sorloth's injury? When he's likely to back?

 

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Originally posted by dp

A Championship player is one that will do well in the Championship. It applies to many of the players who are playing in the Premiership. Most of the sides in the Premiership have plenty of Championship quality players and a few Premiership quality players.

Sorloth is a Championship quality player. It doesn't mean that he won't be successful for us in the Premiership. But you wouldn't place him in the same bracket as Aguero, Sanchez, Salah, Lukaku et al.

I would put him in the same bracket as Ashley Barnes, Sam Vokes and a fair few ex-Palace strikers who are doing OK in the Premiership. Still plenty capable of doing a job for us.

It is no criticism, in my view, to say someone is Championship Quality. Teams like Palace are rarely likely to have more than 4 or 5 Premiership Quality players and we need to make up the numbers with decent Championship players.

Agreed. But a team of largely championship players, playing with focus and commitment under good tactical instruction, can become a Premiership level team. See Burnley. Sum of the parts and all that.

From what i've seen of Sorloth he looks ok. A big, physical CF with decent pace. Nothing special frankly, and i'm unconvinced we couldn't have found similar in the Football League.

 


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Wolves seem to be doing ok - will be very interesting to see how they get on next season

 

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Originally posted by dp

To be clear, it is not me who has branded Sorloth a Championship Player. If you read the whole thread then you will see that certain people on here have been branding Sorloth a "Championship Player" like it is some kind of criticism of him. I was reacting to that.

I'm sorry. This is going to come across sarcastically when it isn't meant to be. I read the words `Sorloth is a Championship quality player'' and assumed that was your take on him. I fully accept it may not be and that I may have misread the context of why you wrote it. I don't always have time to read the full thread or the full context.

 


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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I'm sorry. This is going to come across sarcastically when it isn't meant to be. I read the words `Sorloth is a Championship quality player'' and assumed that was your take on him. I fully accept it may not be and that I may have misread the context of why you wrote it. I don't always have time to read the full thread or the full context.

That’s fine. We all do our best with the time available. No problem.

 

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