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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 09 Aug 19 3.03pm

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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The problem as ever is buying replacements, and is a problem with the European window closing later. We were serious about buying Sarr, he didn’t sign for Watford until after we stated Zaha wasn’t leaving.

Zaha will not be leaving without the asking price being met and us being able to replace him. That will be made clear to Wilf now. I don’t know what makes people think European clubs will spend £80-100 mil on Wilf plus £200k per week when he’s played no European football and the only interest has been from clubs set to finish 5-7th or 8th.

More circus in summary.

 


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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 09 Aug 19 3.05pm

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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The problem as ever is buying replacements, and is a problem with the European window closing later. We were serious about buying Sarr, he didn’t sign for Watford until after we stated Zaha wasn’t leaving.

Zaha will not be leaving without the asking price being met and us being able to replace him. That will be made clear to Wilf now. I don’t know what makes people think European clubs will spend £80-100 mil on Wilf plus £200k per week when he’s played no European football and the only interest has been from clubs set to finish 5-7th or 8th.

More circus in summary.

Very good post Rudi, Spot on.

 


oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

You don't sell him, The media can be tool to use for yourself as well as being harmful, if he had stated his intensions for the club in my opinion it would have stopped a lot of the lies spouted. and made his position clear, I think my opinion was he wanted to sell, but didn't get the money he wanted that is why he let it drag on. only my opinion.

You make it sound all so simple, only it isn’t.

And Parish didn’t sell him, did he?????????

I agree Parish should’ve said with 1-2 weeks ago that that was it. But Zaha should’ve handed in his transfer request then as well, and not 24 hours to go. And it doesn’t stop the world continuing with its attempt to get Zaha to a big club.

Although all involved could’ve handled it better, to say you can’t see how Parish could’ve handled it worse is ironically something that’s as far wrong as you could be, because selling him for £52 mil or to Arsenal for £40 mil would’ve been worse.

There’s also the argument that Parish has managed to get one more season out of Wilf without his value dropping. If that’s the worse he could’ve handled it then I’m again baffled. This was a situation of so many dynamics and so many different influences. You even have Instagram and twitter fans of interested clubs now. Soon we’ll have a team of hopefully players complimenting each other rather than one with all the fanfare and frankly not the end product that matches the value.

Parish deserves criticism for the right back and striker shambles for the 3rd, 4th or is it 5th or 6th time, but this? I’d look at Wilf’s team mostly.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Aug 2019 3.19pm)

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Its hard to think how Parish could have handled the whole transfer window worse, a master class of mismanagement if ever I have seen it and I fear the club will pay with relegation at the end.

Based on what, exactly?

Supposition and rumour mongering in the press about Wilf (where are the cold hard facts)?

Not getting players in that most of our fan base want/would love (but in reality would have to overpay for in order to come)?

Sometimes our fanbase demonstrates an 'entitlement' that does not sit well, with the reality of the position we find ourselves in.

We are a mid to lower table club..to move on we need INVESTMENT. Other clubs around us are spending tens..if not hundreds of Millions..and clubs like Arsenal are buying players on HP over 6 years.

So i'm GLAD we're not wasting money on players simply to appease the fans. I'm more than happy with Cahill and Camarassa, both of whom improve the quality of the squad.

The ONE area i'd agree with you that we could improve on is getting players in BEFORE we sell..on that basis if we get a Winger in..then expect WILF to go.

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

He should have made it clear to Wilf and any purchasing club that this is the amount and more importantly this is the final date of completion, for example 3 weeks before the deadline, then we wouldn't be in the state we are now

How do you know he didnt...all you're going on is press SPECULATION

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You may have missed the entire English sport media intent on Zaha going to a big club. Parish may have viewed that as poking the hornets’ nest. By keeping quiet you could argue hexlet the circus continue without any quotes or anything concrete apart from 1 or 2 Arsenal bids and one Everton bid. As much as Parish deserves criticism for certain football matters, he was up against the media, Wilf and his mugs and anyone else out there plus those I’ve just mentioned working in combination with each other to force Parish when bids were well short of the asking price.

What would Parish do if he said Zaha wasn’t for sale with 3 weeks left and then with days or hours left, Zaha hands in the transfer request and the interested party meets Parish’s valuation? In that case the club has to sell but Zaha loses his loyalty bonus and therefore Parish’s only victory is that with a sale he has no power to stop.

This isn’t a computer game or clear cut as say this and that’s it. It’s a sh1tty business and always has been.

We should only be concerned with when he goes that we’re ready to replace him straight away, and of course he performs in the meantime, which I reckon he will. He wants to move, not hate playing for us.


Sorry Rudi...i replied to Lanzo not realising you had...I guess you and I are both in agreement on this issue.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You make it sound all so simple, only it isn’t.

And Parish didn’t sell him, did he?????????

I agree Parish should’ve said with 1-2 weeks ago that that was it. But Zaha should’ve handed in his transfer request then as well, and not 24 hours to go. And it doesn’t stop the world continuing with its attempt to get Zaha to a big club.

Although all involved could’ve handled it better, to say you can’t see how Parish could’ve handled it worse is ironically something that’s as far wrong as you could be, because selling him for £52 mil or to Arsenal for £40 mil would’ve been worse.

There’s also the argument that Parish has managed to get one more season out of Wilf without his value dropping. If that’s the worse he could’ve handled it then I’m again baffled. This was a situation of so many dynamics and so many different influences. You even have Instagram and twitter fans of interested clubs now. Soon we’ll have a team of hopefully players complimenting each other rather than one with all the fanfare and frankly not the end product that matches the value.

Parish deserves criticism for the right back and striker shambles for the 3rd, 4th or is it 5th or 6th time, but this? I’d look at Wilf’s team mostly.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Aug 2019 3.19pm)

Agree with this

 

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Originally posted by Lyons550


Sorry Rudi...i replied to Lanzo not realising you had...I guess you and I are both in agreement on this issue.

Shouldn’t stop you mate. There was a problem posting on this thread earlier.

I think a lot of us may agree that this issue is not where Parish is COMPLETELY at fault. This was a messy saga brought on by, or made a lot worse than normal, by a bunch of kids without any nous, given a job by a rich footballer. But Zaha won’t be getting rid of them because they’ll be stuffed.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Aug 2019 4.03pm)

 


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Originally posted by hythemaceagle

It wouldn’t surprise me if Bayern Munich came in for him before their window closes, especially as they had to abort their bid for Sane.


Don't see it happening Sane is a far better player and younger they would wait on him rather then take risk on Wilf for who would cost more.

I also can't see Wilf going their the guy couldn't even handle Manchester no way would he go Germany.

 


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Roy yesterday:

"Zaha has beef with the owners and chairman".

Join the club, Wilf, we should have signed a f***ing right back!!!

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


Don't see it happening Sane is a far better player and younger they would wait on him rather then take risk on Wilf for who would cost more.

I also can't see Wilf going their the guy couldn't even handle Manchester no way would he go Germany.

Sane is injured for a while and he wouldn't be cheaper. Man City quotes something crazy like 113M.

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort


Don't see it happening Sane is a far better player and younger they would wait on him rather then take risk on Wilf for who would cost more.

I also can't see Wilf going their the guy couldn't even handle Manchester no way would he go Germany.

There are reasons why Zaha's time in Manchester didn't work out. Reasons which have not put other clubs off trying to sign him and willing to pay huge amounts to do so. United also didn't think he was going to be a flop either did they? Or they wouldn't have inserted a 25% sell on agreement (something they do not do very often).
As for Sane being a better player? Debatable. I'd say its easier to look consistently top draw when you are consistently surrounded by world class team mates that make your own job easier.
Its for that reason I always laugh when fans of top 5 clubs claim Zaha has mnade it at Palace but he'd never make it at their club. Rubbish. If their club has better resources/players, Wilf will find it even easier to perform not harder.

 

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