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Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Jul 18 10.33pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Socialism, Socialism, Socialism............zzzzzzz. If you can't see that i'm far from that then best we end this conversation as friends bud. All the best No I can't see it, so maybe explain it better. Don't worry we can still be friends.
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 01 Jul 18 10.33pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Socialism, Socialism, Socialism............zzzzzzz. If you can't see that i'm far from that then best we end this conversation as friends bud.
All the best

No I can't see it, so maybe explain it better. Don't worry we can still be friends.

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.TUX. 01 Jul 18 10.56pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle No I can't see it, so maybe explain it better. Don't worry we can still be friends. Really? Ok, let's start with QE. Where did that money go and who ultimately pays for it? 1. To the rich. 2. We do. The correlation between money printed (since 09 for example) and the ridiculously mentioned Stock Market performance as a guide to the man on the street (do some homework peeps ffs!) should tell you all you need to know tbh. It hasn't come to you or me! The rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer...............yet you and i are still paying (through austerity) for the f***ers that robbed us all and for whatever reason some still doth a cap. Bloody madness! Simple as that. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

01 Jul 18 10.56pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

No I can't see it, so maybe explain it better. Don't worry we can still be friends.

Really?
Ok, let's start with QE. Where did that money go and who ultimately pays for it?
1. To the rich.
2. We do.

The correlation between money printed (since 09 for example) and the ridiculously mentioned Stock Market performance as a guide to the man on the street (do some homework peeps ffs!) should tell you all you need to know tbh.
It hasn't come to you or me! The rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer...............yet you and i are still paying (through austerity) for the f***ers that robbed us all and for whatever reason some still doth a cap. Bloody madness!

Simple as that.

Buy Litecoin.

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Jul 18 11.29pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Really? Ok, let's start with QE. Where did that money go and who ultimately pays for it? 1. To the rich. 2. We do. The correlation between money printed (since 09 for example) and the ridiculously mentioned Stock Market performance as a guide to the man on the street (do some homework peeps ffs!) should tell you all you need to know tbh. It hasn't come to you or me! The rich have got richer and the poor have got poorer...............yet you and i are still paying (through austerity) for the f***ers that robbed us all and for whatever reason some still doth a cap. Bloody madness! Simple as that. I agree with you that QE ultimately helps the "rich". However, that is just one sector of the economy and lots of middle class people have investments in the stock market too. To back up your point, we also all pay wealthy landowners for having wind turbines on their acres of land through a green tax on top of our energy bills. This is not right, but I don't hate on the rich for this. I think the original point was about the income the treasury gets from the rich – not what the rich get which is a slightly different issue and they obviously get it better all round in so may ways. Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Jul 2018 11.34pm)
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 01 Jul 18 11.29pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Really?
Ok, let's start with QE. Where did that money go and who ultimately pays for it?
1. To the rich.
2. We do.

Simple as that.

I agree with you that QE ultimately helps the "rich". However, that is just one sector of the economy and lots of middle class people have investments in the stock market too.

To back up your point, we also all pay wealthy landowners for having wind turbines on their acres of land through a green tax on top of our energy bills. This is not right, but I don't hate on the rich for this.

I think the original point was about the income the treasury gets from the rich – not what the rich get which is a slightly different issue and they obviously get it better all round in so may ways.

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Jul 2018 11.34pm)

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Sportyteacher London 02 Jul 18 11.32am
Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien?
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London 02 Jul 18 11.32am

Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien?

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cryrst The garden of England 02 Jul 18 12.43pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien? Yup he's a t***
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The garden of England 02 Jul 18 12.43pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien?

Yup he's a t***

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 02 Jul 18 10.56pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien? He's definitely a fake socialist. He's supposed to be a Christian even though socialism breaks at least 3 of the 10 Commandments.
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 02 Jul 18 10.56pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Any chance of getting back onto subject of thread that is James O'Brien?

He's definitely a fake socialist. He's supposed to be a Christian even though socialism breaks at least 3 of the 10 Commandments.

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DanH SW2 03 Jul 18 6.59am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle He's definitely a fake socialist. He's supposed to be a Christian even though socialism breaks at least 3 of the 10 Commandments. So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’.
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SW2 03 Jul 18 6.59am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

He's definitely a fake socialist. He's supposed to be a Christian even though socialism breaks at least 3 of the 10 Commandments.

So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 03 Jul 18 8.59am
Originally posted by DanH So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’. You've answered your own question: never. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 03 Jul 18 8.59am

Originally posted by DanH

So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’.

You've answered your own question: never.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Pussay Patrol 03 Jul 18 9.03am
Originally posted by DanH So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’. It comes back to what I was saying before about pigeon holing, like you can only be one type or another, if you earn above a certain threshold you are a middle class Tory, you only care about feathering your own bed and could never have empathy with low earners. I'm afraid people on here still believe in the class divide and fall back on lazy stereotyping to further their argument. Lets take another example: Mark Steel. He surely earns well above the average with his comedy work and TV appearances, therefore he is now a sniveling Tory boy and any left wing principles he ever had are meaningless Edited by Pussay Patrol (03 Jul 2018 9.04am) Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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03 Jul 18 9.03am

Originally posted by DanH

So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’.

It comes back to what I was saying before about pigeon holing, like you can only be one type or another, if you earn above a certain threshold you are a middle class Tory, you only care about feathering your own bed and could never have empathy with low earners. I'm afraid people on here still believe in the class divide and fall back on lazy stereotyping to further their argument.

Lets take another example: Mark Steel. He surely earns well above the average with his comedy work and TV appearances, therefore he is now a sniveling Tory boy and any left wing principles he ever had are meaningless

Edited by Pussay Patrol (03 Jul 2018 9.04am)

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 03 Jul 18 12.09pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol It comes back to what I was saying before about pigeon holing, like you can only be one type or another, if you earn above a certain threshold you are a middle class Tory, you only care about feathering your own bed and could never have empathy with low earners. I'm afraid people on here still believe in the class divide and fall back on lazy stereotyping to further their argument. Lets take another example: Mark Steel. He surely earns well above the average with his comedy work and TV appearances, therefore he is now a sniveling Tory boy and any left wing principles he ever had are meaningless Edited by Pussay Patrol (03 Jul 2018 9.04am) I don't actually recall talking about political party affiliation or class. It's socialists who are the ones who always bang on about that and want the class divide because it suits the narrative. The only labels I've mentioned are 'socialist' and 'champagne socialist' though I quite like 'limousine liberal' that's used in America . Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Jul 2018 12.15pm)
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 03 Jul 18 12.09pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Edited by Pussay Patrol (03 Jul 2018 9.04am)

I don't actually recall talking about political party affiliation or class. It's socialists who are the ones who always bang on about that and want the class divide because it suits the narrative.

The only labels I've mentioned are 'socialist' and 'champagne socialist' though I quite like 'limousine liberal' that's used in America .

Edited by Penge Eagle (03 Jul 2018 12.15pm)

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Pussay Patrol 03 Jul 18 1.50pm
Len McCluskey is on a 6 figure salary and lives in a £700,000 London flat Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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03 Jul 18 1.50pm

Len McCluskey is on a 6 figure salary and lives in a £700,000 London flat

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 04 Jul 18 12.39am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Len McCluskey is on a 6 figure salary and lives in a £700,000 London flat Attachment: vote labour today for the many not the few.jpg (68.74Kb)
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Penge Eagle

Beckenham 04 Jul 18 12.39am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Len McCluskey is on a 6 figure salary and lives in a £700,000 London flat

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