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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Unfortunately he dug his own grave with his comments earlier in the season. His treatment from refs and opposition has deteriorated since then. He’s now such an easy target and he is incapable of controlling himself. It’s a downward spiral.

By the end of the season he’ll be sick of the Premier League and will go to Dortmund. Premier Leagues loss but more importantly our loss.

Good point and more importantly for us his form has dipped since then. Only he can come through this with help, hopefully soon, so his form can return.

Edited by Booted Eagle (08 Feb 2019 8.33pm)

 


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Originally posted by Casual


He does need to sort himself out. Hasn’t been good this season, won’t be in the running for player of the year at a club that he is apparently ‘ our best ever player’.
On current form he’s the 2nd best winger that we have.


Wilf has been nowhere near as bad as some are painting him. Been involved in many of our goals and attracts three players every time he touches it. Only poor spell has really been when played as a lone forward like Ayew and like Ayew it's done him no favours as neither can do that job.
The Zaha debate, "Grow up,or sort himself out" is an interesting one.
So you're watching a game between under 9s/10s and the skilful kid is taking a kick every time he goes past someone. Are you cheering on the kids to keep kicking him to make him cry and take him out the game or are you screaming at the skilful one to grow up, sort yourself out? As usual in this country we focus on the wrong thing. Apparently Wilf is childish, but what's childish about taking so many kicks that you finally snap and react late in the game. Surely it's more childish for a team to get together and decide, "He's too good for us, let's just keep fouling him till he snaps".
If you want to see players like Wilf kicked out of the game and the star player always being the holding midfield player, then we are going the right way about it.
Finally Arnautovic, if he plays today has a similar temper to Wilf. Are you saying we should go out and kick the crap out of him till he reacts?

 


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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Sick of reading the s*** about how Wilf needs to sort himself out. Sort out what exactly? He moans, hardly a crime. Last sent off seven years ago, so it's hardly a temper that's been hindering him. He cracked after an incompetent ref completed his ridiculous nights work by booking him. He was fouled, threatened with a ball in the face and then grabbed round the neck and the ref booked him. Not surprised he cracked, but as I said, hardly a weekly occurance.
Also don't see how appealing a ban is nannying anyone, it's about backing your own and taking advantage of the rules. We don't do anything underhand on the pitch, so no problem with a little off the pitch.
Shame so many of our fans don't seem to want to back their own.

Couldn't agree more, top post.

 

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Originally posted by Dangermouse


Wilf has been nowhere near as bad as some are painting him. Been involved in many of our goals and attracts three players every time he touches it. Only poor spell has really been when played as a lone forward like Ayew and like Ayew it's done him no favours as neither can do that job.
The Zaha debate, "Grow up,or sort himself out" is an interesting one.
So you're watching a game between under 9s/10s and the skilful kid is taking a kick every time he goes past someone. Are you cheering on the kids to keep kicking him to make him cry and take him out the game or are you screaming at the skilful one to grow up, sort yourself out? As usual in this country we focus on the wrong thing. Apparently Wilf is childish, but what's childish about taking so many kicks that you finally snap and react late in the game. Surely it's more childish for a team to get together and decide, "He's too good for us, let's just keep fouling him till he snaps".
If you want to see players like Wilf kicked out of the game and the star player always being the holding midfield player, then we are going the right way about it.
Finally Arnautovic, if he plays today has a similar temper to Wilf. Are you saying we should go out and kick the crap out of him till he reacts?

Yep....

 

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This from the Times today by Oliver Key headed 'No wonder referees are living in fear'just about sums it up:

At least Wilfried Zaha knows now. If you are going to express dissent, don't go for the old sarcastic applause. Just go mad. Scream at the referee or linesman, as Ashley Barnes the Burnley striker did last weekend.
Such 'passion' is fine according to a leading former Premier League official, so long as it doesn't go too far, or God Forbid, boil over into sarcasm.

Oliver Key goes on to sympathise (in a way) and feels Barnes's reaction will do far more harm to the game than Zaha's juvenile sarcasm.

He is right. Zaha was correctly sent off but Barnes has not been censured by the FA. Ironic?

 

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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I think he should let it be.
As I mentioned previously I would like to see Roy mention it at every press occasion, take advantage of the media, bring the inconsistent refereeing firmly into the spotlight. Roy is well respected and eloquent enough to do this in in a subtle manner.
Mention how VAR should sort out refereeing standards and bring about more even performances from them. Also I would like Luka to be in the refs ear more. "Ref, that's 3 fouls on Wilf now". The team are too subdued when Wilf gets hacked - make a fuss.
And when it looks like Wilf is about to blow, Luka (or anyone really) should get him away from the situation. I would expect Roy to have a good long talk with Wilf, Luka and the rest just about this.

good post.... our players should def be on at the ref and be trying to protect wilf and make sure the opposition cant get away with kicking him. it was s***e hearing deeney saying watford take it in turns to kick him. surely the refs, the fa shpuld be doing something about this. if i was wilf id be pissed too. id be pissed as well if i saw a teammate getting fouled and seeing players deliberately trying to stop him playing his game. wilf needs to be protected from the fouls.

 


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Originally posted by Uphill

This from the Times today by Oliver Key headed 'No wonder referees are living in fear'just about sums it up:

At least Wilfried Zaha knows now. If you are going to express dissent, don't go for the old sarcastic applause. Just go mad. Scream at the referee or linesman, as Ashley Barnes the Burnley striker did last weekend.
Such 'passion' is fine according to a leading former Premier League official, so long as it doesn't go too far, or God Forbid, boil over into sarcasm.

Oliver Key goes on to sympathise (in a way) and feels Barnes's reaction will do far more harm to the game than Zaha's juvenile sarcasm.

He is right. Zaha was correctly sent off but Barnes has not been censured by the FA. Ironic?

Absolutely. Use the media. Get them aboard. Point out how the skilful players are being hacked to the detriment of the game. Question referees. The more this is brought in press conferences by managers and players then maybe, just maybe, the mentality of crap refs like Mariner who condone the fouler will change.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Wilf Ban' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by Uphill

This from the Times today by Oliver Key headed 'No wonder referees are living in fear'just about sums it up:

At least Wilfried Zaha knows now. If you are going to express dissent, don't go for the old sarcastic applause. Just go mad. Scream at the referee or linesman, as Ashley Barnes the Burnley striker did last weekend.
Such 'passion' is fine according to a leading former Premier League official, so long as it doesn't go too far, or God Forbid, boil over into sarcasm.

Oliver Key goes on to sympathise (in a way) and feels Barnes's reaction will do far more harm to the game than Zaha's juvenile sarcasm.

He is right. Zaha was correctly sent off but Barnes has not been censured by the FA. Ironic?

He also goes on to say wilfs a diver and if he thinks his reputation is counting against him, it's a case of reaping what you sow...

 

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Originally posted by spartakev2

He also goes on to say wilfs a diver and if he thinks his reputation is counting against him, it's a case of reaping what you sow...

Wilf's feet are just too quick for your average clogger defender. VAR should sort it out. And if Wilf is a diver, what does that make Salah?

Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Feb 2019 12.54pm)

 

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I wonder if its wilf or the club pushing the appeal.
Worms and cans comes to mind as said before.

 

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It would be good if someone could create a compilation of all the fouls Zaha suffered in the game add the Ashley Barnes outburst and post it on youtube so the FA could view it as evidence

 

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Talk about answering your critics. Many of us have given our advise/opinions following the red card at Southampto. Yesterday Wilf came out and gave a magnificent display of skill and controlled emotions culminating in a goal which he literally forced into the net followed by a release of Palace passion in front of the Ultras. Fantastic stuff. It’s what fills Selhurst and makes Palace such a great club to follow.
And furthermore Wilfs performance was combined with another shocking referee performance who not only ignored numerous bad challenges on Wilf but on many players on both teams. It’s just at the moment refs seem to be anti Palace more than the opposition.
Chants of ‘ you don’t know what your doing’ rang around the ground along with clapping of his bookings!
The team stood strong around each other and following the arrival on the pitch of Bats and Meyer turned on a show of football that would have graced the Nou Camp.
Maybe the only reason we didn’t sing ‘are we Barca in disguise’ was because we were better!
I just hope Wilfs show of Palace passion is indicative of him seeing out his career at CPFC and helping us into the Champions league.

 

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