I dont sit there you f***ing moron, how you can say that people who don't agree with the HF on this topic are jealous of them shows your a thick deluded c***.

I guess you are in the HF, you on the left or right pal?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Oqj8RbeNQ

No I sit in the Arthur like I said it doesn't affect me at all, I couldn't really care but I do remember life before the hf, you could have a block to yourself in the arthur, you sat in silence for 90 minutes with the odd chant of eagles when we got a corner, we had one of the worst atmospheres in the country, I remember Portsmouth fans taking the complete piss out of us for 90 minutes, we used to give millwall the whole arthur cause it wasn't worth opening to palace fans, it was dire. Like it or not the hf are responsible for the atmosphere that gets so much attention from the media and other fans.

They got a lot of flack from most fans before this season, now people are literally begging for them back. I find it funny what can I say

Did you read both their statements, or are you just chatting s***e?

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What I don’t get is why the HF are trying to blackmail the club ?

They are refusing to carry on unless they get their own way like spoilt brats. If they really have the club at heart then they should accept the clubs response , make preparations for when the new stand is ready or safe standing is legalised and carry on their good work from where they have been. It’s very simple !!
Their current strategy has zero chance of success. All they are doing is causing division among fellow fans as seen in this topic !!

I have a few problems with this response.

Firstly, and let's make this clear, the HF owe us absolutely nothing. They were formed by other fans over ten years ago when the atmosphere was pants. Now we're considered omg the best in the UK, and are admired even on the continent. So I've never really understood this rhetoric.

In my opinion, I believe one of the main reasons is that the club promised all of these things, and seemingly got quite far in negotiations, for the club to f*** up the unveiling massively (more on that later), and essentially hung them out to dry without ever accepting the partial blame for the situation. Also, it's not like they don't attend - I've met a few of them and they just moved from Block B to other places.

Finally, I don't think it's their fault for this. I think it's predominantly down to the club for me. This is because:

1) the club f***ed the unveiling up horrendously, where they released (before an important game) that members of the LH weren't allowed to renew their season tickets without any explanation why. Some people were understandably argue, but others used the HF as a scapegoat, where they received a lot of flak, and the club just allowed this to continue.

2) the club's statement was bitchy and, for me, sought to alienate rather than unite (which I felt the HF's latest statement did the opposite). The club's statement made seemingly false claims on the whole situation (explained next).

3) the club's statement said that members of Block E had been consulted, despite the fact that numerous Block E fans had said they had never been asked, which throws the club's statement into disrepute. This is more annoying, because who would believe a HF statement first, before the club's?

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