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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Sep 18 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

As usual a load of people post who have no idea but a strong political agenda

The BBC is extraordinary. There is nothing like it anywhere else. It is also the best in the world at what it does. And its streaming and other innovations absolutely lead the market.

It attempts to be unbiased and is mandated to be so. Try living on a diet of Fox for a while.

People like to knock every damn thing, especially a certain generation. Be careful what you wish for.

And talking of that generation, why on earth should retired people get free anything (including TV licenses) unless they are in poverty. Especially as many current pensioners are benefiting from a pension structure never seen before and never likely to be repeated. Pensions are income, same as any other. If you are on a low income fine, let's means test. Not just give away the future of younger people to older people.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Sep 18 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Unnecessary to turn this too political but we’re all aware that means testing needs humans to check and/or programming systems and cannot will cost more or some say almost as much.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 19 Sep 18 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

As usual a load of people post who have no idea but a strong political agenda

The BBC is extraordinary. There is nothing like it anywhere else. It is also the best in the world at what it does. And its streaming and other innovations absolutely lead the market.

It attempts to be unbiased and is mandated to be so. Try living on a diet of Fox for a while.

People like to knock every damn thing, especially a certain generation. Be careful what you wish for.

And talking of that generation, why on earth should retired people get free anything (including TV licenses) unless they are in poverty. Especially as many current pensioners are benefiting from a pension structure never seen before and never likely to be repeated. Pensions are income, same as any other. If you are on a low income fine, let's means test. Not just give away the future of younger people to older people.

Parts of it are but there's an awful lot of fat that can be trimmmed.

I mean they spend nearly £400m on non-English language output. And again Eastenders, Alan Shearer, newsreaders on half a million quid to read off of an autocue.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 19 Sep 18 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

A breakdown:

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Sep 18 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

A breakdown:

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Ah, now I see the problem

How dare they spend so much on educating our youngest people.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Sep 18 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Apparently he also wants to scrap the free license for over 75s. I predicted this a while ago. Young people are not watching the BBC so their target audience is getting older and of course no longer paying. I have not seen any statistics on this but I suspect someone will have done this and at some point the non paying viewers will be in the majority.

Of course his solution is he wants more money from us. My solution is the BBC needs to respond to the major challenges in broadcasting that face all of the current TV companies not just the BBC.

Some suggestions he might want to consider:

1. Stop over paying your staff in front of and behind the camera. The exodus from the BBC when their salaries became public has not happened because the other TV companies cannot match their salaries. The average person at the BBC normally earns more than their equivalent at one of the other channels. Much noise at the ginger one leaving Radio 2 but one swallow does not make a summer.

2. Stop over staffing. I have spoken to lots of people who work in TV they all say that if it is an OB the BBC turns up with more trucks, equipment and staff than any other company, why?

OB seems to be a particular problem I recently heard a live football match both Radio 5 Live and BBC London had their own commentary teams, why? One couldn't take the feed from the other?

As for the staff who go to the Olympics / world cup enough said.

3. Stop trying to compete with ITV for ratings using celebrity driven shows. I would rather a smaller BBC that focused on high quality documentaries and arts.

I could go on ad nauseum.

PS
Picking up on Rudi's post I am advocating quality over quantity.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Sep 2018 9.23am)

This part in particular really gets my goat...just how many correspondents do they need at the same OB. At the World cup the News themselves had at least 5 who do no more than say a 30sec piece to camera...and then why fly the likes of Sophie Rayworth et al, just to stand outside the stadium and present!

I'm sure they'd come close to halving their budget if they addressed that alone!

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Sep 18 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

This part in particular really gets my goat...just how many correspondents do they need at the same OB. At the World cup the News themselves had at least 5 who do no more than say a 30sec piece to camera...and then why fly the likes of Sophie Rayworth et al, just to stand outside the stadium and present!

I'm sure they'd come close to halving their budget if they addressed that alone!

I am always inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to people that know what they are doing and that are tasked with managing an organisation. They must know they have a limited budget. Could it be that they are just higher quality? From a watcher's or listener's perspective that is indeed the case.

The BBC is the training ground for most of the top TV stations, so they must be doing something right.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 19 Sep 18 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff

Not so. They have a liberal bias, but detest Corbyn and have a clear agenda against him. They seem to be mainly Lib Dem and Blairite types. So liberal, but not particularly left wing.

I wouldn't totally disagree.

Still....I'd say that the BBC are more like a TV Guardian impersonation....So while Bolshevik is an exaggeration...it's in the same universe if not accurate.

But there are only so many words beginning with B.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Sep 18 3.08pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, now I see the problem

How dare they spend so much on educating our youngest people.

Shouldn't that be down to the finger painters?

 


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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 19 Sep 18 3.12pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I am always inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to people that know what they are doing and that are tasked with managing an organisation. They must know they have a limited budget. Could it be that they are just higher quality? From a watcher's or listener's perspective that is indeed the case.

The BBC is the training ground for most of the top TV stations, so they must be doing something right.


I certainly hear what you're saying but what 'worth' is it to have a News Anchor flown out to present the news headlines in front of the stadium rather than in the studio?

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 19 Sep 18 3.14pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

The BBC is bloated and inefficient like all organisations that's fed tax payer money. The licence fee could easily be reduced by cutting back waste. Private companies could also take over some of the radio stations, for example.

Edited by Penge Eagle (19 Sep 2018 3.14pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 19 Sep 18 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

As usual a load of people post who have no idea but a strong political agenda

The BBC is extraordinary. There is nothing like it anywhere else. It is also the best in the world at what it does. And its streaming and other innovations absolutely lead the market.

It attempts to be unbiased and is mandated to be so. Try living on a diet of Fox for a while.

People like to knock every damn thing, especially a certain generation. Be careful what you wish for.

And talking of that generation, why on earth should retired people get free anything (including TV licenses) unless they are in poverty. Especially as many current pensioners are benefiting from a pension structure never seen before and never likely to be repeated. Pensions are income, same as any other. If you are on a low income fine, let's means test. Not just give away the future of younger people to older people.


Saying that the BBC attempts to be unbiased is beyond ridicule.

There have been people in the BBC who have actually tried to implement that......and their vision didn't win out.

Let's look at Newsnight for example.....how is the 40 percent of conservatives represented by that programme?.....Indeed, outside of 'This Week' (which still have significant left wing and centralist representation) how is that 40 percent represented by the BBC?

Sorry...but when it comes to the choice of stories and the slant of coverage....The BBC thinks it's the 'Guardian'.....pretty much all the way down.

The BBC lost its mantle as an unbiased actor a long long time ago.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Sep 2018 3.18pm)

 

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