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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 29 Jan 20 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


I think you need to read all of that report before making comments. It doesn't say what you said it does. All it suggests is that as the switch to renewables has accelerated quicker than originally anticipated the worst case scenarios are now more unlikely. It was always the case that the outcome of possibilities were within a range, and what it says is that the lower levels now look more probable. Which is good news, but as these are still above the levels that scientists believe are sustainable not really that good. Just not imminent disaster.

There is heaps of data available that suggest that man's contribution is 100%! This one says it's above 100% as the natural variation has been towards a cooling, thus mitigating some of man's impact:-

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Don't like that one, or suspect it might be "biased". Do you trust NASA? If so look at this:-

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A more than 100% contribution? How does that work?

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 29 Jan 20 10.45pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

I find the whole climate debate tiring.

Point scoring is irrelevant - warming or no warming, man made or not, poisoning the planet in as many different and fantastical ways as possible is not good for anyone or anything, full stop.

The wrong debate is being had here - it really doesnít matter who is right regarding Ďclimate changeí. People should stop bickering and s***ting on their doorstep.

Personally I think plastic pollution is the big one, itís tangible, immediate and who knows - might even begin to cause fertility issues. Which in some cases, might not be a bad thing

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Jan 20 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

A more than 100% contribution? How does that work?

That was explained both by me and in the article.

Natural climate change appears to have tended towards cooling thus mitigating man's impact. It might be semantics but it makes a point nevertheless.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jan 20 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I find the whole climate debate tiring.

Point scoring is irrelevant - warming or no warming, man made or not, poisoning the planet in as many different and fantastical ways as possible is not good for anyone or anything, full stop.

The wrong debate is being had here - it really doesnít matter who is right regarding Ďclimate changeí. People should stop bickering and s***ting on their doorstep.

Personally I think plastic pollution is the big one, itís tangible, immediate and who knows - might even begin to cause fertility issues. Which in some cases, might not be a bad thing

Sort of agree, but unless we tell China and India they canít prosper as the west has then thereís no stopping that train.

Very much agree on plastic. I love how plastic bags are a criminal act whereas manufacturers, including supermarket own labels are covered in the s***, and lots of it unnecessary. Pulling carrier bags takes no time but ask them to cut down on packaging and youíll be waiting years.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Jan 20 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That was explained both by me and in the article.

Natural climate change appears to have tended towards cooling thus mitigating man's impact. It might be semantics but it makes a point nevertheless.

Itís entirely semantic but there canít be more than a 100% contribution to anything.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 30 Jan 20 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I find the whole climate debate tiring.

Point scoring is irrelevant - warming or no warming, man made or not, poisoning the planet in as many different and fantastical ways as possible is not good for anyone or anything, full stop.

The wrong debate is being had here - it really doesnít matter who is right regarding Ďclimate changeí. People should stop bickering and s***ting on their doorstep.

Personally I think plastic pollution is the big one, itís tangible, immediate and who knows - might even begin to cause fertility issues. Which in some cases, might not be a bad thing

Agreed the other day the CEO of the American fizzy drink company that is the largest user of plastic bottles (millions of tons) claimed that the public like them.

That is exactly the challenge that Greta and the ER people should pick up on. Use you profile to urge people to start boycotting that companies drinks until they do something about it. Nothing hurts a company more than falling sales.

Greta and Co now have a large public profile but what are the going to do with it. If they have any sense there are plenty of ways they can start campaigns which are immediate and easy to implement. She has just registered "Fridays for Future" well how about asking her followers to stay off their phones and tablets one day a week.

I tend to listen to people who are proactive we can all virtue signal I am more interested in solutions.

 


One more point

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Jan 20 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Itís entirely semantic but there canít be more than a 100% contribution to anything.

Of course not. That's why it was just making the point that without natural variation lessening the impact man's contribution would have resulted in an even worse situation.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Jan 20 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not. That's why it was just making the point that without natural variation lessening the impact man's contribution would have resulted in an even worse situation.

So manís contribution has gone from zero percent to the creation and receding of the previous five ice ages to 100% to the current situation. Maybe global warming and cooling is a natural variation.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 30 Jan 20 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So manís contribution has gone from zero percent to the creation and receding of the previous five ice ages to 100% to the current situation. Maybe global warming and cooling is a natural variation.

Why don't you read the reports and reach your own conclusions? As the overwhelming majority of specialist scientific opinion all reaches a similar conclusion I am not looking for other explanations.

How we respond is another debate but that we must is a settled argument so far as I am concerned.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 30 Jan 20 9.36pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why don't you read the reports and reach your own conclusions? As the overwhelming majority of specialist scientific opinion all reaches a similar conclusion I am not looking for other explanations.

How we respond is another debate but that we must is a settled argument so far as I am concerned.

But you concede the point that there were ice ages before there were any people?

 

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 30 Jan 20 11.14pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But you concede the point that there were ice ages before there were any people?

you lot are only jealous of young Greta bcos she has two things you don't have - and I don't mean t*ts - I mean morals and intellect. And how can a supposed football fan argue that you can't give more than 100%? Are you calling Steven Gerrard, Steve McClaren, Kevin Keegan and all the rest liars? And Sir David Attenborough come to think of it.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jan 20 12.13am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

you lot are only jealous of young Greta bcos she has two things you don't have - and I don't mean t*ts - I mean morals and intellect. And how can a supposed football fan argue that you can't give more than 100%? Are you calling Steven Gerrard, Steve McClaren, Kevin Keegan and all the rest liars? And Sir David Attenborough come to think of it.

Unfortunately you incorrectly applied the word 'jealous' when you meant 'envious' to make a point about intelligence.

Jealously is the fear of losing something to an external threat, like your girlfriend to a former boyfriend for example.

Envy is when you wish for something someone else has.

Many, many people make this mistake because...well...an education requires focus and effort.

 

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