You have further enforced my view that you have no debating skills what so ever, have no point to make other than a jingoistic outlook to your little piece of red plastic that you don't even own. You have not (can't) argue any of my points. You have resorted to name calling the last bastion of a child like mind, You accuse me of being a bigot, well look up the meaning sunshine because trust me on this one, if anyone is bigoted round here and displaying a pathetic little englander attitude it's you.

It's almost comical how you are blinkered by your own " towel on sun lounger" mentality ( or just mental I can't decide ).

I will sign off from this now as you clearly can't see the wood for the tree's.

The singing section will happen whether you like it or not.

You will have to move whether you like it or not, the club is bigger than you

The HF will be back as will the atmosphere. no one will miss you if you don't turn up, nor me or anyone else.

That's not me being nasty it's just a fact.

I dont see how someone who does not wish to embrace change is a towel on the sun lounger little Englander. That kind of name calling (not to mention presumption of someone you dont know) makes you look the childish one.
Its not necessary hip, cool or trendy to change things all the time. If it aint broke, why fix it? I disagree with your belief that people will have to move. If they claim to want to join the singing section and suggest taking legal advise/media exposure if ageist, sexist, conforming criteria come into play to stop them I'd bet the club will back down.
The club is bigger than him? Of course it is. Its just as bigger than you too, you appear to have forgotten that because you think they are on your side of the arguement. They are not, they have their own reasons for the decisions they make. Yours and my feelings have little to do with those decisions. If you dont believe that go and ask everyone who currently sits in the top 16 rows of Block E lower Holmesdale.

HF will be back as will the atmosphere. Hmm. First of all the atmosphere Sunday was outstanding and it built from spirit and togetherness as it REALLY got going when we went 1 2 down. As far as the HF being back? Well, I'll repeat what I have said many times. If they were as true supporters as those of us who go every week, rain or shine, regardless of where we are allowed to stand they would not have thrown a hissy fit and stopped going to the game in the first place. For me, just the fact that they boycotted alone has massively damaged any credibility they may have built up to that point.

Am I missing something here? Do we want a singing section? Yes.

Does one improve Selhurst Park? Yes.

Did we have one already that functioned perfectly well? Yes.

So why are we moving people? Just because they want a better view? They asked, the club said no so they should have said "fair enough, back to block B we go". Instead they threw their toys out the pram and boycotted the place. They're not real fans...

Just wondered. ...in his interview SP said they had to 'take note' of the HF (or words to that effect) because he uses their pictures all over their marketing stuff. Could the HF legally stop him doing this, and that's why he did an about turn?

The seats are never guaranteed the next season. Clubs have moved hundreds of thousands of people over decades because they can, and because they own the seats. They’re not rented or real estate, they’re just seats to watch sport in a stadium the fan doesn’t have any ownership of.

It’s one of the most stupid things in this thread and I wouldn’t want to be someone in block E trying this, whether it be public or not. I don’t condone the abuse on Sunday from one person but I can imagine it’s not going to be good if any try to block something that’s now inevitably happening. I’d have moved already with that standing further in front actually.

The difference between the example you have given above and the reality of the situation is that SP and the board wish to introduce a singing section directly behind the goal.
What is the likelihood that those who have sat there for a decade or more suddenly wish to give up their seats? Slim at best.
Stating that "it's how football clubs have always operated" is not looking to the future. Things often have to change to avoid stagnating. Clearly home atmosphere across all clubs in the Premier League is poor and stagnant, at least SP and the board have the balls to break the mould and are trying to address that.

Edited by Lumsdero (30 Oct 2018 1.03pm)