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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 05 Nov 18 9.27pm Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

I dont think people are turning against Meyer at all... I think some people, myself included just pointed out that Meyer looked out of his depth yesterday and faded quite badly after a very good first 15-20 minutes.

I'm not sure if the OP is Meyers mum or another family member but he takes it very personally if people criticise Meyer and totally over reacted and said I was 'picking' on Meyer yesterday when I raised this point.

Nobody... no matter how good they are is immune from criticism.. it's not picking on someone or turning against them it's just simply saying what you felt of there performance.

Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (05 Nov 2018 9.13pm)


He was played out of position. He’s a central attacking no 10 type player and that’s all he can play.

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 05 Nov 18 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by matthau


He was played out of position. He’s a central attacking no 10 type player and that’s all he can play.

Except for the whole of last season when he was a very deep playmaker

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 05 Nov 18 10.35pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

A lot of clutching at straws going on here IMO.

The squad desperately lacks attacking quality / flair and irrespective of what position he's played in Meyer hasn't thus far looked like the player to bring it.

Roy's been dealt a s*** hand with the changes to the squad over the summer.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Nov 18 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

A lot of clutching at straws going on here IMO.

The squad desperately lacks attacking quality / flair and irrespective of what position he's played in Meyer hasn't thus far looked like the player to bring it.

Roy's been dealt a s*** hand with the changes to the squad over the summer.

Did you watch the Arsenal match?

 


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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 05 Nov 18 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Did you watch the Arsenal match?

Yes, he did well. Lively and brought a bit of energy when he came on. Also a rare moment of quality with his volley against Wolves. But I didn't see him beat anyone or open up their defence. Noticed he got shrugged off the ball very easily twice in the middle when he had posession.

Not saying he's a bad player but he's being talked up and isn't a replacement for RLC or Cabaye and I've seen little to suggest he's going to create or score a lot of goals.

On the evidence all this season is we have a chronic lack of attacking quality. Roy is doing a good job with very weak options and has been let down by players bottling it in front of goal at key moments.

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 06 Nov 18 6.49am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

If we play 3 in the middle and can’t afford to have one player (Meyer) who might offer a bit More than blocking tackles and shielding our defence ( if we play 3 like that , then we are using 8 to defend and 3 to attack) , we might aswell call it a day.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 06 Nov 18 7.02am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

A lot of people said RLC wasn't good enough when he first signed for us complaining that they couldn't see what all the fuss was about. After he was given more time on the pitch he grew into his role and ended up playing a key role in our survival. Personally I can see the quality that Meyer possesses and I just think he needs a run of games to get up to speed with the PL. I think Roy wants to accommodate him, hence playing without a recognised striker against Chelsea.

I do think people's patience levels are insanely short and in Meyer's case I don't even think he has even played badly. I also think like when Cabaye signed the hype that preceded the signing means that some people think he is supposed to me some sort of Messiah and his failure to live up to that means he is being crucified.

 

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View A89M's Profile A89M Flag Streatham 06 Nov 18 9.21am Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

A lot of people said RLC wasn't good enough when he first signed for us complaining that they couldn't see what all the fuss was about. After he was given more time on the pitch he grew into his role and ended up playing a key role in our survival. Personally I can see the quality that Meyer possesses and I just think he needs a run of games to get up to speed with the PL. I think Roy wants to accommodate him, hence playing without a recognised striker against Chelsea.

I do think people's patience levels are insanely short and in Meyer's case I don't even think he has even played badly. I also think like when Cabaye signed the hype that preceded the signing means that some people think he is supposed to me some sort of Messiah and his failure to live up to that means he is being crucified.

Yup. I remember the RLC comments as well and it seems to be the same for Meyer. Regarding his physicality I don't see a problem, its an outdated view in my eyes as the PL is full of slight players who are able to use their ball control to get out of tight areas or draw a foul from it.

Almost every game Meyer has come on, he has given the opposition more to think about than just Wilf e.g Watford away, Arsenal or Wolves. I personally believe he'd flourish as the no.10 but if Roy used him in the same role he did on Sunday against weaker opposition with Wilf drifting out wide also, I can see this working as they seem to have a good connection for such little time together.

Cabaye came in as a creative player who could score goals, he did very little of either but he kept the ball and kept us ticking over and we are now really missing him. Not all players have to either score or create goals to be a real asset to the team.

Edited by A89M (06 Nov 2018 9.23am)

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 06 Nov 18 9.41am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by A89M

Yup. I remember the RLC comments as well and it seems to be the same for Meyer. Regarding his physicality I don't see a problem, its an outdated view in my eyes as the PL is full of slight players who are able to use their ball control to get out of tight areas or draw a foul from it.

Almost every game Meyer has come on, he has given the opposition more to think about than just Wilf e.g Watford away, Arsenal or Wolves. I personally believe he'd flourish as the no.10 but if Roy used him in the same role he did on Sunday against weaker opposition with Wilf drifting out wide also, I can see this working as they seem to have a good connection for such little time together.

Cabaye came in as a creative player who could score goals, he did very little of either but he kept the ball and kept us ticking over and we are now really missing him. Not all players have to either score or create goals to be a real asset to the team.

Edited by A89M (06 Nov 2018 9.23am)

That's a sensible post that sums Meyer up nicely. He is in my opinion a very good player, but as you also allude to, he is never going to be a Cabaye replacement. If anyone is going to try and fill those boots out of our current squad it has to be Reidewald or Kouyate, neither of which currently appear able to.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag 06 Nov 18 9.44am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by A89M

Yup. I remember the RLC comments as well and it seems to be the same for Meyer. Regarding his physicality I don't see a problem, its an outdated view in my eyes as the PL is full of slight players who are able to use their ball control to get out of tight areas or draw a foul from it.

Almost every game Meyer has come on, he has given the opposition more to think about than just Wilf e.g Watford away, Arsenal or Wolves. I personally believe he'd flourish as the no.10 but if Roy used him in the same role he did on Sunday against weaker opposition with Wilf drifting out wide also, I can see this working as they seem to have a good connection for such little time together.

Cabaye came in as a creative player who could score goals, he did very little of either but he kept the ball and kept us ticking over and we are now really missing him. Not all players have to either score or create goals to be a real asset to the team.

Edited by A89M (06 Nov 2018 9.23am)

Perhaps we could do with a Cesc Fabregas, or a Pablo Hernandez to provide that creative spark.

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 06 Nov 18 10.22am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps we could do with a Cesc Fabregas, or a Pablo Hernandez to provide that creative spark.

Perhaps. However, we signed Meyer, who is quality as far as I can tell, and as far as the much better informed than me pundits say. If we are going to pay all this money for him then we should play to his strengths.

I question whether we can find a system that puts Zaha and Meyer centre stage and it might be a Gerrard / Lampard type of problem.

I have confidence that we will get it right, but what “right” is is beyond me.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Nov 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Perhaps. However, we signed Meyer, who is quality as far as I can tell, and as far as the much better informed than me pundits say. If we are going to pay all this money for him then we should play to his strengths.

I question whether we can find a system that puts Zaha and Meyer centre stage and it might be a Gerrard / Lampard type of problem.

I have confidence that we will get it right, but what “right” is is beyond me.

Gerrard and Lampard played almost the same position but in a part of the pitch where you can have 2 of them. Zaha and Meyer don’t play in the same position or only the same position and with 3 in front of a defensive midfield partnership there’s room there.

 


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