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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jun 19 8.02pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

lets not also forget we do actually need to raise some money as we are losing it hand over foot.

we cant just magically expect owners to foot the bill.

if we sold nobody & signed nobody and spend no money on transfer fees this summer i would be as happy as a pig in s***...but i can guarantee there would be uproar from most if that was the case.

you cant have your cake, and eat it

 


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View Master Coin's Profile Master Coin Flag 12 Jun 19 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Master Coin Add Master Coin as a friend

Originally posted by brownsugar

Aaron Wan Bissaka is a one off and will get much much better. I would expect Steve Parish and the board to understand that to sell him now would be throwing away millions.......he is only 21 and will be hugely improved after another season, he will attract more media praise and attention and he will be an established premier league player; his value will skyrocket. It would be foolish to sell him for £60 or £65 million now. Also, I want to watch him play for Palace and not Man Utd!

Or... he tears an ACL week one. Doesnít play all season and is worth nothing going forwards. Nothing is a certainty and this is great money

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 12 Jun 19 8.40pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Selling your best players is only likely to get you relegated. Then the financial brown stuff will surely hit the fan.

Tottenham sold Bale
Liverpool sold Coutinho

They both profited.

 

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View Master Coin's Profile Master Coin Flag 12 Jun 19 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Master Coin Add Master Coin as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Tottenham sold Bale
Liverpool sold Coutinho

They both profited.

Hrolf has decided that PL money is in some way infinite and when youíve made that (incorrect) conclusion it leads to thinking we never need to sell ever. And unfortunately it means he canít be reasoned with. As others have pointed out we have an unsustainable wage bill (even with PL income) and need to sell to keep afloat and/or reduce the wage structure.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jun 19 8.46pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

also dont forget...if this goes thru this will mean that during our stint in the PL we will have actually made money, which is a very good thing from a longevity POV.

those who only rocked up in 2014 wont give a s***, but those who have lived thru 2 admins & other tough times will understand that football is a business & AWB is essentially an asset.

 


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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 12 Jun 19 9.35pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

lets not also forget we do actually need to raise some money as we are losing it hand over foot.

Have you seen the last few years' accounts? I haven't, so perhaps you could tell us how much money we're losing per week, or month, or whatever. I'm genuinely interested to know.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Jun 19 11.17pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Master Coin

Hrolf has decided that PL money is in some way infinite and when youíve made that (incorrect) conclusion it leads to thinking we never need to sell ever. And unfortunately it means he canít be reasoned with. As others have pointed out we have an unsustainable wage bill (even with PL income) and need to sell to keep afloat and/or reduce the wage structure.

Itís amazing how politically conservative members are the opposite with club finances (Hrolf hugely). And then Gusset was in agreement with keeping club finances under control but given half the chance would bankrupt the country within a year if he was a Labour chancellor of the exchequer.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 Jun 2019 8.33am)

 


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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 13 Jun 19 6.06am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

I remember in the new year i said we should look to selling both AWB and zaha this summer and using the money to reinvest in players, allowing roy to buy 4/5 he wants to complete his squad on targets we have been looking at for some time.

I was laughed out of here.

It's very obvious this season is a new chapter for us, zaha was always destined to go and awb was unknown 18 months ago, to think we've made 50 mil off him is crazy good - this is one reason why the acadamy is so important. Sure, he is talented, but we won't miss him if we bring a decent prem experienced or prospect in.

However, all i would say is this.. if we didn't have 7 managers in as many years, each buying their own players and changing things.... we could be in a position now where zaha doesn't want to go, where we can push on with the likes of awb and added investment to get us that top 7 finish.

Hopefully after this summer, we have a period of mid table football where we are looking at 7th, not 17th as the benchmark.

 


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View green333's Profile green333 Flag Tasmania 13 Jun 19 7.02am Send a Private Message to green333 Add green333 as a friend

yeah a good few of them

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Jun 19 8.42am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

I remember in the new year i said we should look to selling both AWB and zaha this summer and using the money to reinvest in players, allowing roy to buy 4/5 he wants to complete his squad on targets we have been looking at for some time.

I was laughed out of here.

It's very obvious this season is a new chapter for us, zaha was always destined to go and awb was unknown 18 months ago, to think we've made 50 mil off him is crazy good - this is one reason why the acadamy is so important. Sure, he is talented, but we won't miss him if we bring a decent prem experienced or prospect in.

However, all i would say is this.. if we didn't have 7 managers in as many years, each buying their own players and changing things.... we could be in a position now where zaha doesn't want to go, where we can push on with the likes of awb and added investment to get us that top 7 finish.

Hopefully after this summer, we have a period of mid table football where we are looking at 7th, not 17th as the benchmark.

Itíll come as no surprise that clubs with decent player scouting also are good at spotting managers whereas we have bought mostly proven players and escape artist managers. Itís caught up with us but luckily we havenít been relegated and AWB and Zaha offer a way of balancing the club and managing Wilf leaving before heís either crocked or lost his edge or retired. I canít say Iím confident though unless the manager makes the right choices.

 


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View redandblue4life's Profile redandblue4life Flag Auckland city ! 13 Jun 19 9.35am Send a Private Message to redandblue4life Add redandblue4life as a friend

50 million plus add ons and he has to go we could improve a few areas for that and become a better team ! Itís a total bonus he came from know where and the money raised will make us better. As for those saying Ward is not good enough he is a Solid player with lots of experience, we looked much stronger at the back when he replaced Patrick Van arnholt end of last season .........

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Jun 19 9.44am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Itíll come as no surprise that clubs with decent player scouting also are good at spotting managers whereas we have bought mostly proven players and escape artist managers. Itís caught up with us but luckily we havenít been relegated and AWB and Zaha offer a way of balancing the club and managing Wilf leaving before heís either crocked or lost his edge or retired. I canít say Iím confident though unless the manager makes the right choices.

I canít say Iím confident that it's the manager's choices to make

 

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