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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 18 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The bigger picture?

Economics say stay in
Security says stay in
Environment says stay in
Trade says stay in
Opportunities for our young people says stay in

Which bigger picture aren't I getting? Oh, of course, it's your fascination with immigration. You are simply switching your immigrants from one continent to others, as time will surely tell.

There is more at stake than immigration. I agree that leaving won't immediately alter the immigration situation, but it is a step.
The price we would pay for remaining would be losing our identity.
Do you honestly think that the powers that be don't seek to centralise power and divide us within our own nations?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2018 1.04pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 18 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is more at stake than immigration. I agree that leaving won't immediately alter the immigration situation, but it is a step.
The price we would pay for remaining would be losing our identity.
Do you honestly think that the powers that be don't seek to centralise power and divide us within our own nations?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2018 1.04pm)

Losing our identity? Really? You mean that identity we built up through inviting people in (and sometime not inviting them) from the Norse countries, France and Germany primarily? With alliances between ourselves and Spain, Portugal and Holland variously? Oh do me a favour, our identity is a moving feast but it really isn't incompatible with those of others. Take a look at from where we brought in our monarchy over the years.

So you trade some kind of project fear around concerns relating to identity for real relative impoverishment. Each to their own I suppose.

 

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View Pussay Patrol's Profile Pussay Patrol Online Flag 16 Nov 18 1.29pm Send a Private Message to Pussay Patrol Add Pussay Patrol as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is more at stake than immigration. I agree that leaving won't immediately alter the immigration situation, but it is a step.
The price we would pay for remaining would be losing our identity.
Do you honestly think that the powers that be don't seek to centralise power and divide us within our own nations?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2018 1.04pm)

Oh conspiracy theories now?

 


Why did Tong Po think running at Kurt with a flame would make any difference?

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 16 Nov 18 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

There was once a period in the not too distant past when the left actually cared about and defended UK jobs.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 18 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Losing our identity? Really? You mean that identity we built up through inviting people in (and sometime not inviting them) from the Norse countries, France and Germany primarily? With alliances between ourselves and Spain, Portugal and Holland variously? Oh do me a favour, our identity is a moving feast but it really isn't incompatible with those of others. Take a look at from where we brought in our monarchy over the years.

So you trade some kind of project fear around concerns relating to identity for real relative impoverishment. Each to their own I suppose.

And you don't think that all the major ineractions we had with foreign entities had a permanent impact on our identity?
Most changes were caused by defeat in battle. This is different. This foreign entity wishes to legitimise the
pickpocketing of our national self determination while their puppet masters want to divide us from within with immigration and make us powerless, indoctrinated little workers.
If you can't see this then I can't help you.

 

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View pefwin's Profile pefwin Flag Fighting the politics of envy 16 Nov 18 1.33pm Send a Private Message to pefwin Add pefwin as a friend

Briton for the beaker people....NOW!

what don't we want? Anglo-Saxons
when don't we want them? 1500 years ago.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 18 1.36pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

There was once a period in the not too distant past when the left actually cared about and defended UK jobs.

I don't know why you keep saying I am 'the Left'. I defend jobs for British people, you may not have noticed but lots of us get about a bit.

I defend the UK economy which provides the building block for British people to get good work. And social supports as well.

I also feel much connectivity with all other EU countries as they have been gracious enough to welcome me to work there.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Nov 2018 1.37pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 18 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Oh conspiracy theories now?

Now? It ain't a theory mate. It's happening.

I can't help it if you don't bother to understand other people's motivations.

But us Gammons aren't worth it eh?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 18 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Briton for the beaker people....NOW!

what don't we want? Anglo-Saxons
when don't we want them? 1500 years ago.

Was there ever a point you didn't miss? On purpose?

 

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View Pussay Patrol's Profile Pussay Patrol Online Flag 16 Nov 18 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Pussay Patrol Add Pussay Patrol as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Now? It ain't a theory mate. It's happening.

I can't help it if you don't bother to understand other people's motivations.

But us Gammons aren't worth it eh?

Can you provide an example of where it's happening?

 


Why did Tong Po think running at Kurt with a flame would make any difference?

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 16 Nov 18 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don't know why you keep saying I am 'the Left'. I defend jobs for British people, you may not have noticed but lots of us get about a bit.

I defend the UK economy which provides the building block for British people to get good work. And social supports as well.

I also feel much connectivity with all other EU countries as they have been gracious enough to welcome me to work there.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Nov 2018 1.37pm)

When you do make a 'right wing' point to counter balance then please point it out to me!

I don't understand, we can still have a sizeable fishing industry AND still work and travel in the EU. If you wanted to apply for a job in Germany, then the working visa is all part of the application.

Edited by Penge Eagle (16 Nov 2018 1.49pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 18 1.46pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Can you provide an example of where it's happening?

Don't waste my time with that crap tactic.

Diversion is all you have.

Look at the difference between what we joined and what we have now, just for starters.
Listen to the rhetoric coming from Brussels and the big players in Europe. Look at what immigration is doing to our nations.

Open your eyes.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2018 1.47pm)

 

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