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View Tom R's Profile Tom R Flag Huddersfield 10 Mar 19 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Tom R Add Tom R as a friend

There were 4 bad challenges on Luka yesterday, two by Murray (I don't know how he escaped a red card) plus the player, (I forget his name) who committed about 4 or 5 bad challenges in the space of about 10 minutes in the first half and I don't think even got a yellow.

 

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Whilst I agree that the **** who tackled Luka in the first 15 seconds should have been shown a red no doubt there, the Ref did not cost us the game yesterday in fact he could easily have given a penalty against Scott Dann.

 

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View You What's Profile You What Flag se25 10 Mar 19 5.48pm Send a Private Message to You What Add You What as a friend

Originally posted by sew109

Whilst I agree that the **** who tackled Luka in the first 15 seconds should have been shown a red no doubt there, the Ref did not cost us the game yesterday in fact he could easily have given a penalty against Scott Dann.

Knockaert (scored their second!)

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 10 Mar 19 6.09pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by sew109

Whilst I agree that the **** who tackled Luka in the first 15 seconds should have been shown a red no doubt there, the Ref did not cost us the game yesterday in fact he could easily have given a penalty against Scott Dann.

You very rarely get sendings off that early in the game, no matter what referee is officiating. Letter of the law he defo should of gone for that challenge. Dann's challenge merited a penalty but the early incident may of clouded his judgement. Clearly they need help.

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England. 10 Mar 19 6.51pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

You very rarely get sendings off that early in the game, no matter what referee is officiating. Letter of the law he defo should of gone for that challenge. Dann's challenge merited a penalty but the early incident may of clouded his judgement. Clearly they need help.

if that is true, maybe in the Watford game someone should cut Capoue off at the knees 40 seconds in, Deeny 15 seconds later and put them out of the game, knowing that they are safe from a red card, AS ITS TOO EARLY IN THE GAME !!! Wouldnt be too early if it was one of our players doing the deeds!

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 10 Mar 19 9.07pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

if that is true, maybe in the Watford game someone should cut Capoue off at the knees 40 seconds in, Deeny 15 seconds later and put them out of the game, knowing that they are safe from a red card, AS ITS TOO EARLY IN THE GAME !!! Wouldnt be too early if it was one of our players doing the deeds!

I wish one of our players wouldd do the deed. Get lots of yellows fof silly things, might as well make them worth while and maybe other teams wouldn't see us as such a soft touch.

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 10 Mar 19 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

I wish one of our players wouldd do the deed. Get lots of yellows fof silly things, might as well make them worth while and maybe other teams wouldn't see us as such a soft touch.

Our players are so f*cking green. They wouldn’t even have that conversation, too busy listening to their sh*t music and sorting out their braids.

 

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View MrCParrot's Profile MrCParrot Flag Taunton 11 Mar 19 7.20am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Originally posted by sew109

Whilst I agree that the **** who tackled Luka in the first 15 seconds should have been shown a red no doubt there, the Ref did not cost us the game yesterday in fact he could easily have given a penalty against Scott Dann.

Yep saw that one too. Could have been a pen against Dann.

I'm not saying we would have won the game against 10 men but I think we would have got a point.

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Mar 19 8.08am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by You What


Knockaert (scored their second!)

So what? They had a player sent off early in the match at Brighton yet they their ten men still managed to put three goals past us so perhaps we should be thankful that he wasn't sent off

 

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Originally posted by MrCParrot


I'm not saying we would have won the game against 10 men but I think we would have got a point.

Remind me what the score was in the game at Brighton against ten men?

 

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Referees across the board are terrible. I cannot think of even one who can do the job adequately, let alone exceptionally. Martin Atkinson evokes the least amount of pant shatting when you see his name, John Moss the most.

This is all down to the culture of refereeing: "Game management" rather than rule enforcement.

The difference between the Palaces of the world and the Uniteds of the world boils down to a difference in attitude towards this fact.
Whilst our players are left to rue bad decisions and flap arms, the players at the big clubs accept the fact that the refs are s*** and take advantage. They practice all manner of conning and deception. They have been told "if you get a touch you need to show us" so they hone their diving skills. That's just making the most of it.
Referees are concerned with "game management", so what do clever players like Ferandinho and Xhaka do? They rack up 10-15 niggly fouls a match which they know will go unpunished by the ref but will ruin any counter attack.

Refereeing isn't going to get better so we have to change our approach. The captain should ride the ref all game long, our players should put in the cynical fouls, and yes: we should be diving about all over the place. Whether you get the fk or get a card, just shrug your shoulders and get on with it. It's the public calling out they don't like, not the cheating.

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

Referees across the board are terrible. I cannot think of even one who can do the job adequately, let alone exceptionally. Martin Atkinson evokes the least amount of pant shatting when you see his name, John Moss the most.

This is all down to the culture of refereeing: "Game management" rather than rule enforcement.

The difference between the Palaces of the world and the Uniteds of the world boils down to a difference in attitude towards this fact.
Whilst our players are left to rue bad decisions and flap arms, the players at the big clubs accept the fact that the refs are s*** and take advantage. They practice all manner of conning and deception. They have been told "if you get a touch you need to show us" so they hone their diving skills. That's just making the most of it.
Referees are concerned with "game management", so what do clever players like Ferandinho and Xhaka do? They rack up 10-15 niggly fouls a match which they know will go unpunished by the ref but will ruin any counter attack.

Refereeing isn't going to get better so we have to change our approach. The captain should ride the ref all game long, our players should put in the cynical fouls, and yes: we should be diving about all over the place. Whether you get the fk or get a card, just shrug your shoulders and get on with it. It's the public calling out they don't like, not the cheating.

Agreed.

And I think the powers that be have left things drift for too long for anything to change. Simple rule enforcement - particularly foul throws and placement of the ball for free kicks - appears to have been abandoned.

It also struck me on Saturday that Pawson would have been more likely to have sent Knockhaert off had the response to the foul from our bench and players been more assertive.

 


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