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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 12 Feb 19 4.42am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Isn't the surrounding area mostly Asian?

Why is it only a black issue?

Now you mention it, I reckon the issue re fans is very similar e.g. a real minority of Asian followers. If locally there are lots of Asians then the question is the same, why donít they come and follow their local team? I know weíve got a young lad that plays for Taiwan on our books, Donkin, but correct me if I am wrong, I think he is our only Asian player.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 12 Feb 19 6.28am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Now you mention it, I reckon the issue re fans is very similar e.g. a real minority of Asian followers. If locally there are lots of Asians then the question is the same, why donít they come and follow their local team? I know weíve got a young lad that plays for Taiwan on our books, Donkin, but correct me if I am wrong, I think he is our only Asian player.

Maybe just maybe they just dont like football.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 12 Feb 19 8.02am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst


Maybe just maybe they just dont like football.

Cricket is the number game for people from the Indian sub continent

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Feb 19 10.17am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

What I donít get at the Palace is the lack of black fans. I reckon there are no more than say 3% non white which is totally out of kilter with our playing staff say 40% and our non playing staff say 70%.
Why is this? The surrounding say 5 mile circumference must be about 50/50 black/ white and always seems fully integrated.
Are the local black community the only sensible ones among us who are not prepared to be ripped off?!! I mean who in their right minds wants to sit at Selhurst in the freezing cold with cramped squalid conditions with crap food on offer paying a fortune for nearly 2 hours of pressure/ frustration/ discomfort etc etc.!!
Seriously though there is a massive imbalance of race in our fan base compared to the local community. Can you imagine the potential crowd numbers if more local black folk attended?
And while Iím on just a word for the super friendly security guys who check us all in every home match. Really cool dudes and always so welcoming.

Lots of reasons.

We were never in the top league for long
(Proves their decision to them)
Never won a major trophy
Were never on tv
Arsenal were better
Even African fans prefer Chelsea with racist fans
Other economic migrants support for Ďgloryí

They still donít go there much or at all
Nothing material to show for it?
Itís a white thing?
Why would they want to start new trend?


Not in their culture.
By that I mean it used to originally be after Saturday morning working hours.
It then got fed down the generations.
Now itís sanitised & welcome to all its expensive.
Not that expensive at Palace but it is relatively.
Nothing to show for it materially.

There might still be a view that their future might be difficult compared to young white boys/men at football so spending (wasting?) a fair sum of money might not be appealing. But Arsenal has and has lots of black fans for decades since the Ď80s.

I might be completely wrong but I think a lot of regular black people donít go in for Ďexperiencesí or spending or wasting money on them. I donít know if this still happens but in the championship a group of young black youth players used to sell their complimentary tickets outside Sainsburyís.

Tbh I donít blame anybody for not going when Iím there watching a repeat of however many weeks before. I feel like I am the mug for going but you canít beat being at the event. Watching on tv will never compete, but if you donít know any different then itís great.

I expect Ďbrickbatsí in my direction from anyone waiting to be offended on behalf of others.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Feb 19 10.27am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Young black men/boys are probably now more distanced from the supporters at football. With the manufactured accents they sound completely different to the accents you here at football matches, so that is probably a further divide, apart from Chelsea, whose young away fans can strangely be heard sounding like Stormzy before rubbing shoulders with blatantly racist fans. All quite strange, but thatís money and glory for you.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Feb 2019 10.39am)

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 12 Feb 19 11.31am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Young black men/boys are probably now more distanced from the supporters at football. With the manufactured accents they sound completely different to the accents you here at football matches, so that is probably a further divide, apart from Chelsea, whose young away fans can strangely be heard sounding like Stormzy before rubbing shoulders with blatantly racist fans. All quite strange, but thatís money and glory for you.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (12 Feb 2019 10.39am)

Whatís a manufactured accent? Arenít all accents manufactured at one point or another?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Feb 19 11.44am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Whatís a manufactured accent? Arenít all accents manufactured at one point or another?

Possibly, but it is rather ludicrous to hear white boys from London speaking with a quasi Jamaican accent. A bit sad really.
I remember it all started back in the 70's.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Feb 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Whatís a manufactured accent? Arenít all accents manufactured at one point or another?

Yes, when there wasnít an accent already there. American and Australian are the more recent examples that spring to mind. Or itís the type of air that causes the mouth to work and exercise in a different way to sound differently.

Well this one was created by a few boys at the back of a classroom somewhere in London in the early Ď90s when there was already an accent in the area and itís done them no favours. Hardly helping their employment prospects is it? Just creating more of a distance between them and whoever else they think is a great idea, but then itís diffic to find employment that isnít in places that this accent in usual. Fast food outlets and trainer shops.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Feb 19 11.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Possibly, but it is rather ludicrous to hear white boys from London speaking with a quasi Jamaican accent. A bit sad really.
I remember it all started back in the 70's.

This particular accent started early Ď90s. Not sure which accent youíre referring to.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Feb 19 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This particular accent started early Ď90s. Not sure which accent youíre referring to.

Yes it has evolved in more recent times but certainly, there were White boys using Jamaican phrases and slipping into the occasional Jamaican accent, in a non mocking way, when I was at school in the '70s.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 12 Feb 19 12.56pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes, when there wasnít an accent already there. American and Australian are the more recent examples that spring to mind. Or itís the type of air that causes the mouth to work and exercise in a different way to sound differently.

Well this one was created by a few boys at the back of a classroom somewhere in London in the early Ď90s when there was already an accent in the area and itís done them no favours. Hardly helping their employment prospects is it? Just creating more of a distance between them and whoever else they think is a great idea, but then itís diffic to find employment that isnít in places that this accent in usual. Fast food outlets and trainer shops.

Thereís tons of accents and dialects which have started when an accent/dialect was already there; it doesnít make any sense as a point - if not all (Iíve never seen anything on the type of air point you mentioned), the vast majority of accents are entirely manufactured.

Most people adjust how they speak when it comes to employment; I certainly speak completely differently when Iím with mates, compared to at work.


 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 12 Feb 19 2.03pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This particular accent started early Ď90s. Not sure which accent youíre referring to.

Jim Davidson doing Chalky?

 


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