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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Feb 19 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

My opening post was tongue in cheek but I was making a point.

Young people really can make a difference if they want to beyond the usual "what is the government doing" complaint.

Walking / cycling to school is an obvious one. Not dropping litter in the street, volunteering to clean up areas etc.

I am all in favour of constructive activism not sure that demonstrating outside Parliament when the MPs have gone home is much more than a headline grabbing stunt.

Building a youth Green activist movement that actually does some of the stuff I mentioned will earn far more respect from the public and make the politicians think that these are tomorrow's voters.

It will be interesting to see if there anything credible comes out of this day of action.

And as some posters have said hopefully some of these young people will one day be decision makers or starting eco friendly companies.


Edited by Badger11 (16 Feb 2019 3.37pm)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Feb 19 5.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Do some research.

I have.
There is the same amount of CO2 in the atmosphere now as when records began.
0.0039%
Game over it all a big con.
Is this not the gas thats causing 'climate change'.
And your response is !!!!!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Feb 19 9.06am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I have.
There is the same amount of CO2 in the atmosphere now as when records began.
0.0039%
Game over it all a big con.
Is this not the gas thats causing 'climate change'.
And your response is !!!!!

It is methane that is causing the damage.

A sharp increase since June 2016.

Comes from the rear ends of brexiteers.

Scientists are baffled.......


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Feb 19 9.12am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It is methane that is causing the damage.

A sharp increase since June 2016.

Comes from the rear ends of brexiteers.

Scientists are baffled.......


I heard that scientist believe there was a huge increase in he horse population since 2016 until they realized it was Remainers "Nay, nay" (Curtesy of Frankie Howard)

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 17 Feb 19 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

The indoctrination of our kids by teachers and the hard left is a disgrace. They are children.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Feb 19 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Do some research.

Here's some research.

We will be getting another ice age in the relatively near future.

How much do you think global warming will matter then?

We have had warm interglacial periods before that have been hotter than now. The since record began nonsense means around 300 years. A mere blink.

If man made warming is a real thing then rejoice. It might just stop the next glacial period and everyone in northern Europe might not die.

As I have said before, the biggest problem we have outside of natural environmental change is population growth. THat is the source of all our problems.

Perhaps a bit of warming or freezing might be a good thing after all. It might prolong human existence, albeit with greatly reduced numbers and wars for habitable land.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (19 Feb 2019 11.10am)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 19 9.45am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I won't get into a debate on this but I will offer what I know on the subject of climate change, which is a little different, just to add some context.

Around 20 years ago I got to know a very senior scientist working in the climate change facility at the UEA in Norwich. This is where the UK does most of it's work in this area and is a world leading centre. They advise the UK, and do contractual work for many other governments, about the impact of climate change, where it will manifest itself and how. It's also where their frustration at not being taken seriously led them to overstate their case on one occasion causing a huge political row and causing some to believe it is all a scam, which was very unfortunate.

The relationship was personal and close, so I knew her character and devotion to her work. She is modest, of impeccable integrity and extremely hard working. She knew back then that this is a hugely serious problem but that the impact cannot be accurately forecasted other than within a range of outcomes. Their work was to narrow that range.

I well remember our conversations about the political problems that lay ahead and how governments, whilst aware of the dangers, would find it hard to convince the people to make the changes needed to manage their futures safely. She once dropped into a conversation that she had come from a dinner with Michael. Michael who I asked? It turned out to be Michael Meacher who was the responsible Minister at the time.

She left no room at all for any thoughts that climate change isn't real. She knew beyond the slightest doubt that it is and that whilst natural variation is also real, which complicates the analysis, the effects produced by us are significant and will produce catastrophes unless prepared for.

We have lost touch. The last time I had contact she was living in Beijing advising their government, after a spell in Australia and New Zealand doing the same.

I think that both here, and in many parts of the world, we have done rather better than I might have expected 20 years ago. I did not expect to see the age of the electric car quite so close or wind turbines in quite as big a number. We have a lot now, but I have been in California, Australia and New Zealand in the past 18 months and they are all on board too.

So I am very pleased to see the kids being taught to take this subject seriously and encouraged to think and act politically. Doing so on the last day before a half term is hardly going to hurt their academic education and could do wonders for their political engagement.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Feb 19 9.53am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

It seems to be that there are environment issues that are easily provable and others that are contentious.

Rather than pushing electric cars to prevent global warming which some dispute why not push for electric cars to reduce air pollution which is really bad in London and provable.

Many of the solutions for congestion, air pollution etc will also benefit global warming (if it exists).

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Feb 19 10.17am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I won't get into a debate on this but I will offer what I know on the subject of climate change, which is a little different, just to add some context.

Around 20 years ago I got to know a very senior scientist working in the climate change facility at the UEA in Norwich. This is where the UK does most of it's work in this area and is a world leading centre. They advise the UK, and do contractual work for many other governments, about the impact of climate change, where it will manifest itself and how. It's also where their frustration at not being taken seriously led them to overstate their case on one occasion causing a huge political row and causing some to believe it is all a scam, which was very unfortunate.

The relationship was personal and close, so I knew her character and devotion to her work. She is modest, of impeccable integrity and extremely hard working. She knew back then that this is a hugely serious problem but that the impact cannot be accurately forecasted other than within a range of outcomes. Their work was to narrow that range.

I well remember our conversations about the political problems that lay ahead and how governments, whilst aware of the dangers, would find it hard to convince the people to make the changes needed to manage their futures safely. She once dropped into a conversation that she had come from a dinner with Michael. Michael who I asked? It turned out to be Michael Meacher who was the responsible Minister at the time.

She left no room at all for any thoughts that climate change isn't real. She knew beyond the slightest doubt that it is and that whilst natural variation is also real, which complicates the analysis, the effects produced by us are significant and will produce catastrophes unless prepared for.

We have lost touch. The last time I had contact she was living in Beijing advising their government, after a spell in Australia and New Zealand doing the same.

I think that both here, and in many parts of the world, we have done rather better than I might have expected 20 years ago. I did not expect to see the age of the electric car quite so close or wind turbines in quite as big a number. We have a lot now, but I have been in California, Australia and New Zealand in the past 18 months and they are all on board too.

So I am very pleased to see the kids being taught to take this subject seriously and encouraged to think and act politically. Doing so on the last day before a half term is hardly going to hurt their academic education and could do wonders for their political engagement.

I thought you had retired.

No one doubts the honesty of scientists who believe in man made warming.

For me, the problem is more that no one is looking at the bigger picture. Climate change is inevitable no matter what we do. Humans have enjoyed a stable climate for ten thousand years but that will all change sooner or later, one way or another.

We have to adapt or die.


 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 18 Feb 19 7.26pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Have no objection to the young people of today protesting about saving the planet - maybe they could set an example by chucking away their mobile phones, turning off their playstations/ipads/whatevers and getting out there and picking up some plastic waste.......

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I won't get into a debate on this but I will offer what I know on the subject of climate change, which is a little different, just to add some context.

Around 20 years ago I got to know a very senior scientist working in the climate change facility at the UEA in Norwich. This is where the UK does most of it's work in this area and is a world leading centre. They advise the UK, and do contractual work for many other governments, about the impact of climate change, where it will manifest itself and how. It's also where their frustration at not being taken seriously led them to overstate their case on one occasion causing a huge political row and causing some to believe it is all a scam, which was very unfortunate.

The relationship was personal and close, so I knew her character and devotion to her work. She is modest, of impeccable integrity and extremely hard working. She knew back then that this is a hugely serious problem but that the impact cannot be accurately forecasted other than within a range of outcomes. Their work was to narrow that range.

I well remember our conversations about the political problems that lay ahead and how governments, whilst aware of the dangers, would find it hard to convince the people to make the changes needed to manage their futures safely. She once dropped into a conversation that she had come from a dinner with Michael. Michael who I asked? It turned out to be Michael Meacher who was the responsible Minister at the time.

She left no room at all for any thoughts that climate change isn't real. She knew beyond the slightest doubt that it is and that whilst natural variation is also real, which complicates the analysis, the effects produced by us are significant and will produce catastrophes unless prepared for.

We have lost touch. The last time I had contact she was living in Beijing advising their government, after a spell in Australia and New Zealand doing the same.

I think that both here, and in many parts of the world, we have done rather better than I might have expected 20 years ago. I did not expect to see the age of the electric car quite so close or wind turbines in quite as big a number. We have a lot now, but I have been in California, Australia and New Zealand in the past 18 months and they are all on board too.

So I am very pleased to see the kids being taught to take this subject seriously and encouraged to think and act politically. Doing so on the last day before a half term is hardly going to hurt their academic education and could do wonders for their political engagement.

After all that effort, did you get fingers at least?

 

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View .TUX.'s Profile .TUX. Flag 18 Feb 19 7.49pm Send a Private Message to .TUX. Add .TUX. as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Have no objection to the young people of today protesting about saving the planet - maybe they could set an example by chucking away their mobile phones, turning off their playstations/ipads/whatevers and getting out there and picking up some plastic waste.......

Loving this.
The gauntlet has been thrown.

 


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