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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 04 Mar 19 12.40am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I would imagine that a huge swathe of smokers are from the Far East, so called developing countries & Sub Continent.
I saw a report a while back that Smoking in the USA was down as low as 14%? Lets face it short of standing outside (& 20ft from the building) you're options are very limited.
Funnily enough I am in Korea Town most days & there appears to be an inordinate amount of smokers there.


Iím sure youíre right. China accounts for a large percentage but maybe they donít have the same societal pressure and pricing issues.

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 04 Mar 19 7.42am Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Originally posted by Jimenez

I would imagine that a huge swathe of smokers are from the Far East, so called developing countries & Sub Continent.
I saw a report a while back that Smoking in the USA was down as low as 14%? Lets face it short of standing outside (& 20ft from the building) you're options are very limited.
Funnily enough I am in Korea Town most days & there appears to be an inordinate amount of smokers there.


Iím sure youíre right. China accounts for a large percentage but maybe they donít have the same societal pressure and pricing issues.

In countries where poverty actually exists the health effects of smoking don't tend to be relevant either.

After all, who cares about something that'll kill you in 50 years when you might starve tonight?

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 Mar 19 7.43pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC



In countries where poverty actually exists the health effects of smoking don't tend to be relevant either.

After all, who cares about something that'll kill you in 50 years when you might starve tonight?

I'd never thought about it that way. Maybe having no expectation of long life can have a wider impact on how people live their lives.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 12 Mar 19 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Ban movies and any TV programmes from showing actors merrily puffing away.

Now.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 12 Mar 19 11.54pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

I'd never thought about it that way. Maybe having no expectation of long life can have a wider impact on how people live their lives.

It kills you slowly and it's an unpleasant and uncomfortable death, your breathing becomes more difficult as the years pass and because it can be slow it is unnoticeable, then one day you do notice it ..you have a little cough and you also notice that running or walking quickly makes you out of breath, if you manage to stop now you may be able to recover fully, but because tobacco is as powerful a drug as heroin doing that is extremely difficult.

Peoples ability to work and just function normally is hugely reduced long long before they die, COPD is nasty!
Heart failure and stroke is massively increased after ten plus years and increases more hugely as every year passes after ..and also the wonderful cancer ..everywhere! Not just the lungs, people often also have limbs removed if they do survive long enough through damaged circulation, the cost to the NHS is unbelievably ridiculous, you have no idea! ..and I've just scratched the surface!

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 13 Mar 19 12.08am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

According to Google smokers cost the NHS £5bn and contributed £12 bn in tax and excise in 2015/16. How much will all the fanatical anti smokers cost the NHS as they live on to be 200 years old?

Smokers ability to live normally is hugely hindered and must not be overlooked as they age, the younger when started means illness will hit younger and effect work productivity, something that is rarely mentioned anywhere.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 13 Mar 19 12.10am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Smoking doesn't just enter the lungs of the smoker, even outside.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 13 Mar 19 12.38am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Smoking might be bad for you? Why has this never been mentioned?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 13 Mar 19 10.06am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

It kills you slowly and it's an unpleasant and uncomfortable death, your breathing becomes more difficult as the years pass and because it can be slow it is unnoticeable, then one day you do notice it ..you have a little cough and you also notice that running or walking quickly makes you out of breath, if you manage to stop now you may be able to recover fully, but because tobacco is as powerful a drug as heroin doing that is extremely difficult.

Peoples ability to work and just function normally is hugely reduced long long before they die, COPD is nasty!
Heart failure and stroke is massively increased after ten plus years and increases more hugely as every year passes after ..and also the wonderful cancer ..everywhere! Not just the lungs, people often also have limbs removed if they do survive long enough through damaged circulation, the cost to the NHS is unbelievably ridiculous, you have no idea! ..and I've just scratched the surface!

The cost to the nhs is paid for by smokers to be treated for a smoking related illness.
About 2.5x more in tobacco tax than is spent.
Just to put the record straight.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 13 Mar 19 10.19am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The cost to the nhs is paid for by smokers to be treated for a smoking related illness.
About 2.5x more in tobacco tax than is spent.
Just to put the record straight.

I'm not sure that does put the record straight as if you look at a dozen different surveys you will see a dozen different conclusions

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 13 Mar 19 11.02am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Not to engage in whataboutery but alcohol also costs the NHS billions, more including the associated police costs. Rape and suicide statistics are strongly influenced by drinking. Debt, work days lost, family breakdowns, homelessness, drinking and driving, drunken violence, the list goes on.
Not trying to say two wrongs make a right and I drink myself but come on, who would you rather stand next to at a bus stop? Someone who was smoking a cigarette or someone who was drunk?

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 13 Mar 19 11.29am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not to engage in whataboutery but alcohol also costs the NHS billions, more including the associated police costs. Rape and suicide statistics are strongly influenced by drinking. Debt, work days lost, family breakdowns, homelessness, drinking and driving, drunken violence, the list goes on.
Not trying to say two wrongs make a right and I drink myself but come on, who would you rather stand next to at a bus stop? Someone who was smoking a cigarette or someone who was drunk?

The smoker every time ........you can at least walkaway from the smoke in the sure knowledge that they will not
follow you and pester you like so many drunks do.

 

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