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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 09 Apr 19 8.46am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

I have to be honest, in my opinion I find our collection of midfielders far too samey and a little underwhelming from an attacking pov. I think we could upgrade almost all. McArthur has been a fantastic servant and for his faults Schlupp is one of the few who contributes with goals from open play and at least has a thought to try and go forward with the ball. I just wish we had a Shelvey, Mooy type who can get hold of the ball and have some attacking vision with the ability to build attacks with his passing. As a side note, goodness knows why Kouyate doesnt get more game time. As I have said in other threads, Meyer has done nothing to suggest he should be a starter in this team. Maybe next year. What a loss RLC has been.

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 09 Apr 19 9.10am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

I have to be honest, in my opinion I find our collection of midfielders far too samey and a little underwhelming from an attacking pov. I think we could upgrade almost all. McArthur has been a fantastic servant and for his faults Schlupp is one of the few who contributes with goals from open play and at least has a thought to try and go forward with the ball. I just wish we had a Shelvey, Mooy type who can get hold of the ball and have some attacking vision with the ability to build attacks with his passing. As a side note, goodness knows why Kouyate doesnt get more game time. As I have said in other threads, Meyer has done nothing to suggest he should be a starter in this team. Maybe next year. What a loss RLC has been.

Edited by MonsterMunch (09 Apr 2019 8.47am)

Shelvey is consistently left out by Benitez, as there is no doubt about his talent, but doesnít work hard enough for the team and goes missing in games, similar to Meyer.
McArthur gives 100% all game, that is why he is in the team, itís not always about talent but contribution.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 09 Apr 19 9.17am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Shelvey is consistently left out by Benitez, as there is no doubt about his talent, but doesnít work hard enough for the team and goes missing in games, similar to Meyer.
McArthur gives 100% all game, that is why he is in the team, itís not always about talent but contribution.

While I take your point, in my opinion and I dont wish to do Jimmy a dis-service as we enter our 7th season in the premier league I want more than a trier in our starting eleven. Just because Shelvey is out of favour at Newcastle doesnt mean a great deal. Hes also a local lad so who's to say he would not thrive in our environment. Anyway someone of his ilk would be nice.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag 09 Apr 19 9.20am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Shelvey is consistently left out by Benitez, as there is no doubt about his talent, but doesnít work hard enough for the team and goes missing in games, similar to Meyer.
McArthur gives 100% all game, that is why he is in the team, itís not always about talent but contribution.

The last time Shelvey started for Newcastle was back in November.Since then he has been on the bench several times.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag 09 Apr 19 9.23am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

While I take your point, in my opinion and I dont wish to do Jimmy a dis-service as we enter our 7th season in the premier league I want more than a trier in our starting eleven. Just because Shelvey is out of favour at Newcastle doesnt mean a great deal. Hes also a local lad so who's to say he would not thrive in our environment. Anyway someone of his ilk would be nice.

Shelvey is an Essex boy and I have seen his brother George play as a striker for Barking.Not that local to Selhurst Park !

 

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View Straightbackup's Profile Straightbackup Flag Crystal Palace 09 Apr 19 9.56am Send a Private Message to Straightbackup Add Straightbackup as a friend

Spot on, agree with every word of that. Schlupp is a woeful footballer, but he must have some serious dirt on Roy when he keeps getting a game.

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Seeing as you mentioned me....

Roy may not be doing it deliberately but he is on a stitch up of Meyer, there is no other explanation.

The whole team, the whole performance was crap first half. Meyer had some neat touches, and on one occasion he harried and won the ball back well, and launched an attack.

He was playing much, much better than Schlupp.

Second half things opened up and while I will admit MacArthur actually affected the game when it became a but more stretched, but this is EXACTLY when Meyer should have been out there.

Once again though Roy stitches him up and hooks him at half time (he never makes subs at half time), like starting him in physical away games.

Max Meyer was one of the most highly touted young prospects to come out of Germany in years. Please dont expect me to believe he has become a sh&t player overnight. Hodgson has a lot to answer for destroying the guy's confidence and not letting him get into any kind of rhythm here.

The way Hodgson has managed him has been nothing short of very, VERY poor. You can say all you like that he hasnt taken his chances but any player coming from a foreign league, especially one who isnt the strongest physically, needs a proper run of games and some stability.

Roy hasnt got a clue how to bed in new signings, except ones on loan that we cannot buy anyway, they start every week.

Kouyate should be starting for one.

Mark my words, Meyer will leave Palace behind and go on to become a very high class and highly regarded player in the game. He is too good for the way Hodgson sets us up, it completely doesn't play to any of his strengths.

So why the F did we sign him?

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Apr 19 1.59am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

What Shelvey has that is positive is a great range of accurate passing.

Discipline another issue but on his day a game changer

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 11 Apr 19 5.26am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Would like someone like Mooy (Huddersfield) or Shelvey in Our midfield!

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 11 Apr 19 8.56am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Seeing as you mentioned me....

Roy may not be doing it deliberately but he is on a stitch up of Meyer, there is no other explanation.

The whole team, the whole performance was crap first half. Meyer had some neat touches, and on one occasion he harried and won the ball back well, and launched an attack.

He was playing much, much better than Schlupp.

Second half things opened up and while I will admit MacArthur actually affected the game when it became a but more stretched, but this is EXACTLY when Meyer should have been out there.

Once again though Roy stitches him up and hooks him at half time (he never makes subs at half time), like starting him in physical away games.

Max Meyer was one of the most highly touted young prospects to come out of Germany in years. Please dont expect me to believe he has become a sh&t player overnight. Hodgson has a lot to answer for destroying the guy's confidence and not letting him get into any kind of rhythm here.

The way Hodgson has managed him has been nothing short of very, VERY poor. You can say all you like that he hasnt taken his chances but any player coming from a foreign league, especially one who isnt the strongest physically, needs a proper run of games and some stability.

Roy hasnt got a clue how to bed in new signings, except ones on loan that we cannot buy anyway, they start every week.

Kouyate should be starting for one.

Mark my words, Meyer will leave Palace behind and go on to become a very high class and highly regarded player in the game. He is too good for the way Hodgson sets us up, it completely doesn't play to any of his strengths.

So why the F did we sign him?

There is no doubting that Meyer is a good player but he has had a year with absolutely no improvement. We will be doing well if we can cash in on him this summer. There are certain players suited to certain leagues and Unfortunately Max is not suited the PL. The football is too fast and manic for him so everything just passes him by.He is also too lightweight for centre mid and we havn't got the luxury of shoving him into a number 10 role. (which would still fail)

Just think of the all the world class players who have come to England and looked awful. That doesn't mean they are bad players. Horses for courses.

I had high hopes and am gutted that it hasn't worked out for him but his day's in England are numbered. We just need to move on and sign somebody else.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

Shelvey is an Essex boy and I have seen his brother George play as a striker for Barking.Not that local to Selhurst Park !

Shelvey is also ex Charlton so may not fancy Selhurst

 

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Jimmy Mac has been great for us, everyone loves a guts and thunder player even if the technical brilliance is lacking.

I don't think playing him and Luka is necessary, one or the other for me.

Anyone on here saying Shelvey is a good player instantly puts their opinion in the bin as far as I'm concerned. He's a fat, ill disciplined, glory ball merchant of the first order. Utter s***e and not fit to lace JM's boots, even if I do agree that JM isn't the greatest.

 

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Perhaps if you ever meet Shelvey you'll tell him so..............then again, probably not

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Jimmy Mac has been great for us, everyone loves a guts and thunder player even if the technical brilliance is lacking.

I don't think playing him and Luka is necessary, one or the other for me.

Anyone on here saying Shelvey is a good player instantly puts their opinion in the bin as far as I'm concerned. He's a fat, ill disciplined, glory ball merchant of the first order. Utter s***e and not fit to lace JM's boots, even if I do agree that JM isn't the greatest.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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