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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 18 Dec 19 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Beastie

Who says Parish hanging onto his shares is an obstacle? No one could possibly know that

We are a well established Premier League club and billionaires the world over are queuing up to buy into clubs like us so why hasn't anyone bought us if not for the stumbling block of a minority shareholder who wants to run the club on a day to day basis

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 18 Dec 19 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by mileend

presumably 51% would be technically enough to have a controlling stake and have the decision making power - then the money not spent on the other 49% can be invested into the club

True but dividends are payable in direct proportion to the number of shares held so if a billionaire investor ploughed sufficient money into the company that it enabled them to enter the big time then the minority shareholders would benefit to the same extent

 

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View mileend's Profile mileend Flag East London 18 Dec 19 3.20pm Send a Private Message to mileend Add mileend as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

True but dividends are payable in direct proportion to the number of shares held so if a billionaire investor ploughed sufficient money into the company that it enabled them to enter the big time then the minority shareholders would benefit to the same extent

good point - understood

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Dec 19 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And none will be forthcoming as long as Parish insists on keeping his stake and running the club.

No-one is going to pump hundreds of millions into a company that they don't control

Agreed I have said this many times. If SP as a fan, wants the club to progress he may have to consider relinquishing control

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag UK/Thailand 18 Dec 19 5.16pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

We are a well established Premier League club and billionaires the world over are queuing up to buy into clubs like us so why hasn't anyone bought us if not for the stumbling block of a minority shareholder who wants to run the club on a day to day basis


plus asking price is too high.

Going by reports they want very high amounts so why would some one buy Palace when for less they could buy Newcastle (Newcastle has larger fan base, better training & youth setup plus much better stadium as well only thing positive for Palace is it's London)

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 18 Dec 19 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


plus asking price is too high.

Going by reports they want very high amounts so why would some one buy Palace when for less they could buy Newcastle (Newcastle has larger fan base, better training & youth setup plus much better stadium as well only thing positive for Palace is it's London)

Ashley is holding out for 350m, I haven't seen any reports our asking price is anywhere near that. 220m is the highest reported price.

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 18 Dec 19 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

The relegation/promotion model for the league is a huge disincentive for investors, and it makes it hard for normal clubs to grow. Throw out the big six clubs, and each year you relegate 3 out of the 14 regular teams. All things being equal, that's over a 20% chance that your premier league investment is going to be making championship level revenue next year.

And if you manage to avoid relegation, there's no big payoff outside of the clubs that make Europe. You collect your revenue, then repeat the same thing the following year.

If you think about it in terms of trying to profit, the best thing to do is to invest in a championship side, or even lower, pump enough cash to get them to the PL, then cash out immediately.

The only way it makes sense to invest in PL club is if you do like Man City or Chelsea, and buy a guaranteed finish in the top half of the league each year. But with FFP, I don't think you can even do that anymore.

Personally, I think relegating 3 teams is too many from the top league, especially when 6 are already untouchable. A few months of bad luck, and it's easy to end up 17th. It would give more stability to the league if just 2 or even 1 team was relegated each year.

 


2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 18 Dec 19 7.29pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Painter


Ashley is holding out for 350m, I haven't seen any reports our asking price is anywhere near that. 220m is the highest reported price.

350m for 100% of the club whereas how much of our much smaller club is being sold for 220m

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 19 Dec 19 12.31am Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

The relegation/promotion model for the league is a huge disincentive for investors, and it makes it hard for normal clubs to grow. Throw out the big six clubs, and each year you relegate 3 out of the 14 regular teams. All things being equal, that's over a 20% chance that your premier league investment is going to be making championship level revenue next year.

And if you manage to avoid relegation, there's no big payoff outside of the clubs that make Europe. You collect your revenue, then repeat the same thing the following year.

If you think about it in terms of trying to profit, the best thing to do is to invest in a championship side, or even lower, pump enough cash to get them to the PL, then cash out immediately.

The only way it makes sense to invest in PL club is if you do like Man City or Chelsea, and buy a guaranteed finish in the top half of the league each year. But with FFP, I don't think you can even do that anymore.

Personally, I think relegating 3 teams is too many from the top league, especially when 6 are already untouchable. A few months of bad luck, and it's easy to end up 17th. It would give more stability to the league if just 2 or even 1 team was relegated each year.

Yes, but if you do....you stay up!

 

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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Long Island City, NY 19 Dec 19 2.06am Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Yes, but if you do....you stay up!

Touche monsieur pussycat &#128049;. 18th is relegation.

But he's right (in theory), establish yourself as a premier league team, take out money, cash in, then have them relegated. Best business model.

 

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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 19 Dec 19 3.10am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho
Yes, but if you do....you stay up!

Right, sorry, I meant 18th.

Point being, there really isn't a huge difference between an 11th place team and an 18th place team. It just takes a few unlucky results, and one or two key injuries, and even a decent PL team can easily end up in 18th.

That makes for exciting matches all season, but it's terrible if you want to encourage investors. There's no team outside the top 6 that I would put my personal finances on the line to gamble that they'll be in the PL in 2-3 years. Billionaires recognize the same thing. It's all risk, and little reward.

 


2017 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Middlesboro
2018 Jan. (Sako) Palace 1 - 0 Burnley
2019 May (Batshuayi, Batshuayi, OG, Van Aanholt, Townsend) Palace 5 - 3 Bournemouth
2020 Feb. (Van Aanholt) Palace 1 - 0 Newcastle

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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 19 Dec 19 8.31am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm not sure what your comment has to do with the post that you quoted.

As I have said on more than one occasion anyone thinking of investing hundreds of millions into a football club will want 100% ownership so it's Mr P's reluctance to sell his own equity that is likely to stop any sale

And as I have said before, you don't need 100% to control a club/business, if you have 51%you have complete control and cannot be outvoted

 

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