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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Online Flag Sittingbourne 10 Jul 19 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Consider the following players from the Crewe academy who went on to forge careers at top level :
Rob Jones, Danny Murphy, Dean Ashton, Neil Lennon,David Platt Etc.

Crewe also had the likes of Geoff Thomas and John Pemberton who left for a bigger club ! And Bruce Grobbelaar was at loan at Crewe when Liverpool signed him.

Crewe probably not the best example of an academy given recent revelations.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 10 Jul 19 12.58pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Consider the following players from the Crewe academy who went on to forge careers at top level :
Rob Jones, Danny Murphy, Dean Ashton, Neil Lennon,David Platt Etc.

Crewe also had the likes of Geoff Thomas and John Pemberton who left for a bigger club ! And Bruce Grobbelaar was at loan at Crewe when Liverpool signed him.

I think Southampton are a better example - they’ve had the likes of Mane, Lovren, Van Dijk and Clyne come and go over the last few years, making a massive profit on each, and getting at least 12 months of high level performance out of them. They’ve also had the likes of Chambers and Lallana move on from their academy.

If I’m a young domestic/overseas player trying to make it to the PL now, i’d be looking at Saints as an ideal first club to secure playing time and development within the Prem, safe in the knowledge that if you do kick on and generate interest from higher up the table, they are willing to listen to it. We need to position ourselves the same way.


 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Jul 19 4.51pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I think Southampton are a better example - they’ve had the likes of Mane, Lovren, Van Dijk and Clyne come and go over the last few years, making a massive profit on each, and getting at least 12 months of high level performance out of them. They’ve also had the likes of Chambers and Lallana move on from their academy.

If I’m a young domestic/overseas player trying to make it to the PL now, i’d be looking at Saints as an ideal first club to secure playing time and development within the Prem, safe in the knowledge that if you do kick on and generate interest from higher up the table, they are willing to listen to it. We need to position ourselves the same way.


I agree but you are missing the massive attraction of proximity to London. We are best positioned to attract these players, but where we can really learn a lesson from Southampton is how they find them and attract them in the first place. I'm afraid our "scouts" show "cub" like experience in the market place.

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 10 Jul 19 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Our player recruitment is piss poor and generally has been for years. I'd still argue we haven't brought in a really decent striker since we won promotion.

Every year it's the same story, I have a heart full of hope when the the transfer window creaks open and then find myself desperately praying for a miracle in the final week of the window. I never learn, it's like constantly going back to an ex who always cheats on you.

Leaving it until the last minute never helps us. Max Meyer's interview today specifically mentions how he struggled after failing to have a pre-season with us, we're forcing our signings to play catch up. It's reflected in our results as well as we're usually in the bottom 3 after 8 games until they learn how to play together.

We seem to leave it until the last minute to try and get a couple of million discount on players, yet how much have we lost in prize money due to this approach?

After a very modest season in terms of signings, we actually desperately need a good window this time. A right back, centre back, winger and striker are all imperatives. Yet what is the betting we leave most of it until the end again, if we do it at all? Happy to be quoted and ritually abused if we do pull our fingers out, will be worth it.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (10 Jul 2019 5.11pm)

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Jul 19 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Leaving it until the last minute never helps us. Max Meyer's interview today specifically mentions how he struggled after failing to have a pre-season with us, we're forcing our signings to play catch up.

Hopefully anyone that we sign is currently involved with pre season with his present club so he should arrive fit

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jul 19 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Hopefully anyone that we sign is currently involved with pre season with his present club so he should arrive fit

Yes but there is a settling in period, or not, with nearly all the players sign.

 


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Originally posted by stevo

Loved him as a player but seriously what is he bringing in his new role??

Agree, Parish claimed bringing Freedman in as DoF was going to both speed up transfers as well as help unearth some real prospects.
Neither has been the case.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 10 Jul 19 6.12pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Its odd, because recent signings in the majority have been terrible, he does have an eye for a player. He signed Wardy Yannick Damo and Jedi all were fantastic successes.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 10 Jul 19 6.47pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

I'm a little confused, when Sam was in charge was he the one who identified PVA, Schlupp and Luka? If so what is Dougie doing?

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 10 Jul 19 6.51pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

it really makes me laugh how morons with f*** all understand of what it takes to do deals/run things behind the scenes in a football club take to the internet to slag people off.

no wonder people call us stripey nigels!

 


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View CPFCwetrust's Profile CPFCwetrust Flag Maidstone 10 Jul 19 9.59pm Send a Private Message to CPFCwetrust Add CPFCwetrust as a friend

I expect a scouting network takes quite a bit of time to build up and become successful and won't be an instant thing nor something that is picking out super players within 3 years. I think the lack of stability with managers has created us quite a few problems in this area and may be part of the issue. I think in the long term, the principle of having somebody like Dougie is a good thing and brings a sense of stability if we go through anymore managers.

I get it that fans are anxious every year about transfers but I highly doubt there is nothing going on and everybody is just twiddling their thumbs behind the scenes.

I don't think we have a bad squad for a relatively small club in the top division.

Glass is half full and everything.

 

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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 11 Jul 19 1.23am Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

I watched the "Sunderland till I die" doco on Netflix and it is clear that getting any player over the line is not easy and not just a problem for Palace. I also think identifying undiscovered gems in the lower divisions in both the UK and overseas markets are equally difficult due to the exposure and coverage of the players on the internet ( reference any on Matteo's excellent posts ).
At the moment Chelsea seem to have a monopoly on most of the best of the young talent and everyone else is fighting over the remainder. Hence whey AWB went for 50 million.
The reality is that to stay in the premier league you need a nucleaus of proven pro's and they maybe able to carry a few talented younger players. Get the balance wrong and you won't be in the division.
I guess what i am alluding to is Dougie does not have an easy job.

 

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