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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 23 Jun 20 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by sotac464


Roy has steadied the ship, on a shoe string in comparison.

Come on he's done a lot more than that. That's what Parish Said about Warnock before we sacked him and brought in Pardew.

He's been immense for Palace, and all without any sort of investment in the squad.
Imagine if he had the 40 million to spend like Allardyce in one window?

He has his style of play and sticks to it, because we don't have the players to play another way, we played a lot more possession based football, especially at home, when we had Cabaye and Loftus-Cheek.

We've replaced them with Meyer and McCarthy, who unfortunately haven't produced what we hoped they could.

I love having Roy in charge, we are a solid premiership side, who next season won't get relegated, when he leaves.......well we've all seen what's happened to them clown's down the road.


Edited by sotac464 (23 Jun 2020 7.36pm)

The no investment in the squad is a bit of a red herring. We have made 2 big money signings recently and not really got any real value from them, Benteke a shadow of the player in his first season and Sakho who seems injured most of the time. They both get big wages and are a drain on our finances.
Since Roy arrived, Guita, Cahill, Kouyate and Ayew have joined and a fixture every week in the first team.
Roy seems to get the best out of players, that fit into his system, not necessarily big money players.
I doubt this summer there will be a pleather of new signings with the fall out of Covid 19. A few from cash strapped Championship clubs seems more likely.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 23 Jun 20 9.04pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

The no investment in the squad is a bit of a red herring. We have made 2 big money signings recently and not really got any real value from them, Benteke a shadow of the player in his first season and Sakho who seems injured most of the time. They both get big wages and are a drain on our finances.
Since Roy arrived, Guita, Cahill, Kouyate and Ayew have joined and a fixture every week in the first team.
Roy seems to get the best out of players, that fit into his system, not necessarily big money players.
I doubt this summer there will be a pleather of new signings with the fall out of Covid 19. A few from cash strapped Championship clubs seems more likely.

Exactly. We've still got that 40m BFS spent as Luca, Schlupp, and PVA are still at the club.

In his first season, he arguably had the best squad we've ever had.

 

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View Laszlo Panaflex's Profile Laszlo Panaflex Flag 23 Jun 20 10.29pm Send a Private Message to Laszlo Panaflex Add Laszlo Panaflex as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Exactly. We've still got that 40m BFS spent as Luca, Schlupp, and PVA are still at the club.

In his first season, he arguably had the best squad we've ever had.

I would say that Sam did some of the best transfer business of any recent Palace manager. Those three have all been important for us long after he left. (I'd argue that perhaps Neil Warnock did one of the best bits of business in signing the original Jimmy Mac, but that's besides the point!)

Hodgson has done a sterling job of getting the most out of the players he inherited. Questions will be asked about some players, like why Schlupp always gets a game, or why Sorloth did so well in Turkey, but no manager is 100% successful all the time with every player. Roy's built a solid, reliable team. No-one looks at us as "easy prey" any more and even if we're not setting the world alight, I need only to remind you of Stoke City, who wanted to be more exciting and adventurous, so they brought in Mark Hughes and sunk like a stone. The grass is not always greener, and in their case, it turned out that is mostly moss and weeds anyway.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 24 Jun 20 5.18am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Roy didn't sign those players... he had a shoe string in comparison... that's my whole point... he has come in, steadied the ship, we aren't rocky... we aren't looking over our shoulder... therefor he should be allowed to spend the kind of money pardew and BFS had. He should be allowed to assemble his squad to push on, see what Roy really can do.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Jun 20 8.01am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

Roy didn't sign those players... he had a shoe string in comparison... that's my whole point... he has come in, steadied the ship, we aren't rocky... we aren't looking over our shoulder... therefor he should be allowed to spend the kind of money pardew and BFS had. He should be allowed to assemble his squad to push on, see what Roy really can do.

The ship was in 'Pitchy seas' when he arrived with 4 straight defeats in the opening 4 games and no goals scored.
Portholes were glugging and bilge pumps were working overtime.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 24 Jun 20 8.44am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

I truly feel that Parish needs to give Roy a decent budget this summer and say, this season is about progress and direction.

Roy has steadied the ship, on a shoe string in comparison.

We need to now push on and follow a new direction, spearheaded by Roy. So that next summer, his replacement can carry on the momentum.

Roy deserves 60 mil to get some young blood in the task of appointing his successor.

Yes, be interesting to see what he could achieve with that kind of money....no harm in dreaming !

 


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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 24 Jun 20 1.09pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

As we have seen Money spent on players does not equate to success. I am sure Steve values Roy and Dougie's knowledge but I far happier to hear we are spending money bringing on youth through are own academy.

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yes, be interesting to see what he could achieve with that kind of money....no harm in dreaming !

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 25 Jun 20 11.30pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

60 mil in todays market is nothing on 3/4 players.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 26 Jun 20 3.44am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

As we have seen Money spent on players does not equate to success. I am sure Steve values Roy and Dougie's knowledge but I far happier to hear we are spending money bringing on youth through are own academy.

Or playing some to see if we do need to buy that many!

 

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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 07 Jul 20 1.54pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

Once again i have faih that Roy,Dougie and Steve know alot more than me about players and running a football club

Originally posted by cryrst ,

Or playing some to see if we do need to buy that many!

 

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