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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 10 Apr 20 11.26pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I understand his reasoning entirely.
Good delivery from a corner is very important.
If you have players who are good at attacking the ball at corners you need good delivery so that these players are a real-threat in the opposition box.

Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2020 11.02pm)

Come on statto. Harry Kane taking corners.

Just say the words over and over again.

Its bats***.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 20 11.42pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Come on statto. Harry Kane taking corners.

Just say the words over and over again.

Its bats***.

Hodgson deeming that Kane was the best corner-taker clearly believed in the efficacy of assigning him this role given that he had players who were effective in attacking the ball in the penalty area.He certainly didn't conclude that this deployment was otiose.
I can understand his thinking on this matter.

I accept that we have a difference of opinion but HOL would be rather tedious if we all agreed with one another on a regular basis !


Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2020 11.48pm)

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 10 Apr 20 11.56pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Yes, but hes not an utter s***e and gash player is he. He has proved that in Turkey and Real Madrid are sniffing around.

Hmmmm what does that tell you? He didnt realize his potential at Palace. Whose job is it to ensure all players excel and realize their potential at our football club?

He was given a hand full of starts in tough games then discarded to the bench and given 10 mins here and there. There is no way on earth that constitutes having a proper look at a foreign striker.

Evening !

At the time we eventually bought Sorloth we were desperate for a striker. We went head to head with West Ham in trying to sign Jordan Hugil . He went to West ham for £10m and played a total of 22 minutes football for them. He's now back in the Championship. I'm sure the West Ham fans remember Hugil in the same way as we remember Sorloth.

The harsh reality is that clubs like Palace - and West Ham - haven't got the luxury of time to develop players. In a league where there are no easy fixtures, players are expected to either hit the ground running or at a minimum show the potential to be successful. Sorloth did neither. Then you have to look at the players character - he didn't have the mentality to cope with the situation. Now he's had a fresh start and done well for himself but at no time did he even hint at being good enough for the Premier League . Such was his standing at the club that we now look like missing out on a massive windfall should he get a big move - you can't blame Hodgson for that.

If you are going to blame Hodgson for the Sorloth situation then just bear in mind that Kevin de Bruyne and Mo Salah were both signed and then released by Chelsea. s*** happens.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Apr 20 12.03am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Evening !

At the time we eventually bought Sorloth we were desperate for a striker. We went head to head with West Ham in trying to sign Jordan Hugil . He went to West ham for £10m and played a total of 22 minutes football for them. He's now back in the Championship. I'm sure the West Ham fans remember Hugil in the same way as we remember Sorloth.

The harsh reality is that clubs like Palace - and West Ham - haven't got the luxury of time to develop players. In a league where there are no easy fixtures, players are expected to either hit the ground running or at a minimum show the potential to be successful. Sorloth did neither. Then you have to look at the players character - he didn't have the mentality to cope with the situation. Now he's had a fresh start and done well for himself but at no time did he even hint at being good enough for the Premier League . Such was his standing at the club that we now look like missing out on a massive windfall should he get a big move - you can't blame Hodgson for that.

If you are going to blame Hodgson for the Sorloth situation then just bear in mind that Kevin de Bruyne and Mo Salah were both signed and then released by Chelsea. s*** happens.

Jadon Sancho left Man C for Borussia Dortmund.
Serge Gnabry left Arsenal for Bayern Munich.

 

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Yes, but hes not an utter s***e and gash player is he. He has proved that in Turkey and Real Madrid are sniffing around.

Hmmmm what does that tell you? He didnt realize his potential at Palace. Whose job is it to ensure all players excel and realize their potential at our football club?

He was given a hand full of starts in tough games then discarded to the bench and given 10 mins here and there. There is no way on earth that constitutes having a proper look at a foreign striker.

have you actually watched the turkish league to see what the quality of defending & goalkeeping is like?...massive gulf in difference

 


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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 11 Apr 20 11.20am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Sorloth was roundly criticised on these boards for poor performances in cup games against Middlesbrough and Grimsby last season when the likes of Meyer and Riedewald also failed to impress in midfield.

He got battered after missing a good chance to equalise in the last minute at home to Tottenham when we had only 9 pts. Roy sat him out after that and gradually our results improved.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (11 Apr 2020 11.21am)

 

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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

have you actually watched the turkish league to see what the quality of defending & goalkeeping is like?...massive gulf in difference

I confess I've never watched the Turkish league, but would be surprised if the quality (barring the top couple of teams) were any better than the Championship, and I think Sorloth is much more comparable to the many players that have torn up the Championship for a season, than a De Bruyne or a Salah. We've had a few of them: Tom Ince and that fop from Middlesbrough, Bamford, spring to mind.

Dougie obviously saw the ability at that next level down, but I guess the cream of the scouts (if there are any) are the ones who can spot the players that can translate their form to the Prem level.

Our main folly it seems was agreeing to include an option to buy for less than we paid for him.

Edited by antipodeagle (11 Apr 2020 1.05pm)

 

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Originally posted by antipodeagle


Our main folly it seems was agreeing to include an option to buy for less than we paid for him.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing as Dougie was congratulated for getting such a high purchase price at the end of the loan period at the time but it's easy to be wise after the event

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 11 Apr 20 1.52pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Sorry even though Sorloth scoring regularly in Turkish League, No one is going to convince me he is a top striker .Let's see what happens from here on in then I will hold my hands up.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'roberto carlos slams roy' by bexleydave

roberto carlos says roy nearly destroyed his career by making him play out of position.
claims roy know nothing about football.

on football london website.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'roberto carlos slams roy' by bexleydave

Well Roberto Carlos must be right, he's an absolute pillar of football wisdom- just look at his stellar management career...

 


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This post has been merged from a topic called 'roberto carlos slams roy' by bexleydave

This is from a 2017 interview I think.

 

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