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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 20 Aug 19 9.12am Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Look at wolves since Fosun bought them 3 years ago for £45m!!!
Same price as Wan Bissaka. Laughable but true.
Fosun are worth £7.5 billion. They have a clear plan of how to grow the club.
SP and our want away American Owners could probably get £100m for us. We so need new owners with very deep pockets or I fear we will be seriously struggling. SP has let us all down this summer selling one of our best players and banking most of the cash. No key replacements. Big mistake. Huge.
We have all but lost our best 3 players from last season and dismally failed to buy players in key positions that we all know. WZ should have gone for £50m. Their are no excuses. Sadly we are stagnating which you simply can’t do in the premier.
Our club management and now team management are constantly being called to account by us fans.
A serious overhaul is called for if we want to progress. But it is very late in the day to do something significant.

All made viable by the expansion of their stadium.

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 20 Aug 19 9.19am Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

Whatever anybody says we are in limbo, the club has stagnated and this IMO can only be down to our owners. The ground is the same as it was after so many promises and the squad over the last 3 windows.. well need I say more. It seems if there is a player available on a free he will be linked to us!! Such a shame after so much promise a few seasons ago, well this is Palace after all. IMO we desperately need investment or we will sink, not sure any blame should be heaped on RH as he can only work with what he has.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Aug 19 9.34am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by davehuggins

Whatever anybody says we are in limbo, the club has stagnated and this IMO can only be down to our owners. The ground is the same as it was after so many promises and the squad over the last 3 windows.. well need I say more. It seems if there is a player available on a free he will be linked to us!! Such a shame after so much promise a few seasons ago, well this is Palace after all. IMO we desperately need investment or we will sink, not sure any blame should be heaped on RH as he can only work with what he has.

You are right, but the problem with Roy and we have with Roy is he won’t change one bit. 4-4-2 all the time. No 2nd striker so it’s Zaha as a supporting striker. Someone else out wide who isn’t a wide player. Too many defensive choices. Like for like subs, sometimes more defensive when we’re a goal down.

These can be match day issues that over a season don’t cause relegation. But we’ll find out soon if they’re more longer term than one or two matches over four, because if they’re four out of four or 5/5 or 6/6 then Roy has either been worked out by the league, his football is outdated, the players are finally showing how much they’ve been frustrated with his football or all of these.

Maybe Camarasa at number 10 will solve all of this, but knowing Roy he’ll play him on the wing, which was a rumour when we signed him. 4-4-2 just fvck off. We aren’t dynamic or strong enough for it. 4-2-3-1 all day for us, but he’ll never do it, so we’ll see if the league have worked us out and if there’s enough time for Sam to rescue us again after however many games.

 


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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 20 Aug 19 9.55am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

I think the most worrying thing is when Hodgson hailed the new contract signed by Milivojevic as 'our best signing'

Against Sheffield United he was as bad as anyone and very lucky not to get booked. His aggression will result in red cards. His distribution was bad and he does not appear to inspire the team as captain.

He took the corners and free kicks which had no variation: a high floater which Benteke couldn't read.
To me his sole attribute is as a penalty taker.

it will be interesting to see how he reacts with Cahill who has better leadership qualities. I have a feeling there won't be a place for both.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 20 Aug 19 10.37am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

I think the most worrying thing is when Hodgson hailed the new contract signed by Milivojevic as 'our best signing'

Against Sheffield United he was as bad as anyone and very lucky not to get booked. His aggression will result in red cards. His distribution was bad and he does not appear to inspire the team as captain.

He took the corners and free kicks which had no variation: a high floater which Benteke couldn't read.
To me his sole attribute is as a penalty taker.

it will be interesting to see how he reacts with Cahill who has better leadership qualities. I have a feeling there won't be a place for both.

His lack off aggression is painful to watch, Hopefully Mccarhty can teach him a thing or 2 about getting stuck in and inflicting some pain on the opposition.

I agree about his free kicks and corners, they are shocking most of the time.

There will be no issue with Cahill and him.

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 20 Aug 19 11.30am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Don’t expect Roy to change his formation, he doesn’t like it. He will play his tried and trusted players regardless, his loyalty to players is his Achilles heel.

Roy will NEVER change his tactics or his set up. He is like me as I am 76 and do not like to change my way of doing things. He puts 11 players on the pitch and most of them his favourites and will not do substitutions when and if needed unless of course an injury. We need a new young manager that can read a match and change things around when needed. He has had his day I am afraid and I think SP knows it by the look on his face at the last match. SP should act now while things are not too bad and not wait till we are in the bottom three. He should be looking for the new manager now and one that can knock our team into shape and start getting some results. Nothing against Roy but he has had his day and should just be a spectator like us. IFD SP does not change his manager all our worst fears will come to haunt us.

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 20 Aug 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I would argue the Roy has over achieved since he has been here considering the lack of support in the transfer market, the number of injuries to key players, and the clearly limited squad he has to work with.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Aug 19 11.51am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I would argue the Roy has over achieved since he has been here considering the lack of support in the transfer market, the number of injuries to key players, and the clearly limited squad he has to work with.

This is true, although it’s no good now playing a way that doesn’t get the most out of the players he has by playing a rigid 4-4-2 that doesn’t suit the team with them playing out of position.

I suspect susmik might be right and Roy has run his course, but it’s too early to sack him. Parish wouldn’t have a clue who to hire anyway, and would need the advice of someone like Hodgson to do it, but if I were Parish I’d be calling Sam right now and looking into who is available because if Roy doesn’t adapt this shyte system then we are screwed.

We’ll see after Villa and maybe/probably a bit longer.

But who would want the job who’s experienced right now, and who up and coming would we spend the compensation on and is worth the risk with no budget unless the Americans want us to stay up?

Well the board may just stick with sinking with Roy. Fvcking shambles.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Aug 19 12.00pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

You can bet that any manager parish might approach would demand:

A right back in January
A striker on loan in January or free agent/whatever asap

Which are both exactly what we should’ve done in the first place and what we always end up doing in January but costing us more blah blah fvcking boring blah you’re haven’t a football brain or clue mr Parish.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 20 Aug 19 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

You are right, but the problem with Roy and we have with Roy is he won’t change one bit. 4-4-2 all the time. No 2nd striker so it’s Zaha as a supporting striker. Someone else out wide who isn’t a wide player. Too many defensive choices. Like for like subs, sometimes more defensive when we’re a goal down.

These can be match day issues that over a season don’t cause relegation. But we’ll find out soon if they’re more longer term than one or two matches over four, because if they’re four out of four or 5/5 or 6/6 then Roy has either been worked out by the league, his football is outdated, the players are finally showing how much they’ve been frustrated with his football or all of these.

Maybe Camarasa at number 10 will solve all of this, but knowing Roy he’ll play him on the wing, which was a rumour when we signed him. 4-4-2 just fvck off. We aren’t dynamic or strong enough for it. 4-2-3-1 all day for us, but he’ll never do it, so we’ll see if the league have worked us out and if there’s enough time for Sam to rescue us again after however many games.


Pretty much agree with all of this Rudi

 


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View george1212's Profile george1212 Flag london 20 Aug 19 1.34pm Send a Private Message to george1212 Add george1212 as a friend

Roy needs to leave, I can't see any other solution.

The recruitment policy has also been disgraceful given how well other clubs around us have fared and attracted good players over the last few seasons. Why can't we?

Our summer transfer window has been pathetic. We lost AWB. G Cahill and Camerasa aren't going to plaster over the huge problems we have.

No strikers who could score in a brothel at this club.

 

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View Medway Eagle's Profile Medway Eagle Flag Whitstable Kent 20 Aug 19 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Medway Eagle Add Medway Eagle as a friend

You know I was going to have a rant about the Steve Parish and his mis-handling of the finances and the lack of keeping up with the rest of the Premier with bringing in new blood, But cant really be bothered, I find it sad that a club that should be an established premier league team is still (the majority of the season) languishing in the lower reaches of the division. We can try to blame Roy or Freedman but in all honest IMO the whole problem is brought about by Parish, I am just frustrated as fcuk, Every season I have high hopes until we start to play, Its a really sad state of affairs, And I do belive that Parish's luck will run out this season and relegation beckons

 

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