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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Why shouldn't there be a boycott of Nike when China have apparently been detaining 1 million Muslims in internment camps? Can you explain why there shouldn't be a boycott there? Because they aren't pesky Joooos!

Edited by Penge Eagle (27 Jul 2019 12.21pm)

I think Nike are possibly the worst but any of them could have problems. I would never buy Nike stuff - then again I'm not a chav.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 27 Jul 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Are there any Palace fans out there who are disappointing that Palace have decided to wear Puma shirts?

The Campaign to Boycott Puma (part of the BDS) states that:

"Global sportswear manufacturer Puma is involved in violations of international law and human rights. Puma is the main sponsor of the Israel Football Association (IFA), which includes teams in Israelís illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Israelís military occupation expels Palestinian families, including children, from their homes to give way for these settlements. Israeli settlements are considered war crimes under international law.

More than 200 Palestinian sports clubs have called on Puma to end the sponsorship deal and stop supporting Israelís illegal land grabs.

Puma markets itself as a company that cares about equality yet it funds the apartheid the IFA helps sustain."

The campaign also states that

"As one of the worldís top athletic apparel makers and the only international sponsor of the Israel Football Association, Pumaís sponsorship brings international legitimacy to the IFAís actions. The IFA, as documented by Human Rights Watch, includes football clubs based in illegal Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Israeli settlements are illegal land grabs that form an integral part of Israelís occupation infrastructure pushing indigenous Palestinian families off their land, robbing Palestinians of natural resources and denying Palestinians their right of movement.

Pumaís sponsorship of the IFA helps keep its direct involvement in violations of human rights and international law off the field, allowing Israelís settlement regime to continue and expand.

The IFA has refused to take measures to end its complicity, despite being repeatedly condemned by UN advisors, dozens of elected officials, civil society and human rights groups representing millions and public figures."

Are there any other Palace fans out there who think this is a poor decision by Palace to wear a shirt made by Puma, while the brand seems to support a system built on illegal land grabs, ethnic cleansing, the operation of Apartheid against an indigenous population?


Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 12.00am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 12.07am)


i didnt know all this. Going out to buy some Puma kit today.

thanks

P.S
The few jewish families i know are all broadly tolerant and accepting of their women dating/marrying fella's from a white English Christian/Atheist background.

So lets avoid all the antisemitism and let Love reign supreme.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Jul 2019 12.43pm)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 27 Jul 19 1.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

I suppose you mean "leveller" in the same way that the corruption of the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank equates to stealing a people's land and forcing them into basic prison camps while at the same time withholding water and electricity as the mood takes.

Or that Israeli snipers killing over 180 unarmed Palestinians and injuring more than 6,100 others with live ammunition is a leveler to people throwing rocks?

The Palestinian authority is little more than a puppet of Israel nowadays, doing it's dirty work in the 39% West Bank that it controls. It is not unusual for an occupying powers to use the citizens (if you can say that about landless Palestinians) of an occupied territory to enforce its rule.

But Israel has introduced Apartheid not the Palestinian authority and it is Israel that places illegal settlements on occupied land in flagrant disregard for international law.

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Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 11.02am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 11.03am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 11.04am)

Why would a Palestinian lie?
The government is corrupt in Palestine.
Listen what he says dont just hear.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jul 19 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Essentially this guy wants the club to take a political position on trading with a company that isn't breaking any laws.

A football club is a business and should only be interested in football matters, obeying the law and in perhaps supporting local community projects.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2019 12.35am)

Yes he does, albeit ethical rather than policital. And your point is?

Presumably you don't agree with 'shaming' organisations, for example that don't pay their taxes or use child labour. Leave it to the free market? Not my problem?

And stop with this 'if you criticise the Israeli regime you are racist', it's simple spin.

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Originally posted by cryrst

Why would a Palestinian lie?
The government is corrupt in Palestine.
Listen what he says dont just hear.

And letís not forget that company founder Rudi Dassler was a member of the Nazi party; presumably the corporate outlook has changed since his involvement.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Jul 19 2.05pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

I like Puma wear, I like the way it fits my lardy ar$ed body. I couldn't give a flying fcuk bout politics, Israel, Palestine or even the isle of wight. I love PUMA

Sorry bout that mods, I'll behave now

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jul 19 2.08pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

I like Puma wear, I like the way it fits my lardy ar$ed body. I couldn't give a flying fcuk bout politics, Israel, Palestine or even the isle of wight. I love PUMA

Sorry bout that mods, I'll behave now

You do know this is the News and Politics thread right? I guess the fact you are lardy is News that we all need to know then.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

You do know this is the News and Politics thread right? I guess the fact you are lardy is News that we all need to know then.

Do chubsters not float your boat, Maple?

 


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Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Are there any Palace fans out there who are disappointing that Palace have decided to wear Puma shirts?

The Campaign to Boycott Puma (part of the BDS) states that:

"Global sportswear manufacturer Puma is involved in violations of international law and human rights. Puma is the main sponsor of the Israel Football Association (IFA), which includes teams in Israelís illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Israelís military occupation expels Palestinian families, including children, from their homes to give way for these settlements. Israeli settlements are considered war crimes under international law.

More than 200 Palestinian sports clubs have called on Puma to end the sponsorship deal and stop supporting Israelís illegal land grabs.

Puma markets itself as a company that cares about equality yet it funds the apartheid the IFA helps sustain."

The campaign also states that

"As one of the worldís top athletic apparel makers and the only international sponsor of the Israel Football Association, Pumaís sponsorship brings international legitimacy to the IFAís actions. The IFA, as documented by Human Rights Watch, includes football clubs based in illegal Israeli settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Israeli settlements are illegal land grabs that form an integral part of Israelís occupation infrastructure pushing indigenous Palestinian families off their land, robbing Palestinians of natural resources and denying Palestinians their right of movement.

Pumaís sponsorship of the IFA helps keep its direct involvement in violations of human rights and international law off the field, allowing Israelís settlement regime to continue and expand.

The IFA has refused to take measures to end its complicity, despite being repeatedly condemned by UN advisors, dozens of elected officials, civil society and human rights groups representing millions and public figures."

Are there any other Palace fans out there who think this is a poor decision by Palace to wear a shirt made by Puma, while the brand seems to support a system built on illegal land grabs, ethnic cleansing, the operation of Apartheid against an indigenous population?


Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 12.00am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (27 Jul 2019 12.07am)

Problem being that I'm pretty sure the origin of most clothing has some questionable aspects to it like child labour and the likes, so there will always be a reason to choose a different company, but would that be any better?

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 Jul 19 8.19pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Hearing from inside sources that Maine, Maple & Wisbech are chained to the Selhurst Park gates wearing nothing but Adidas jockstraps, they also have Dan H there with a fold up table with pre made milkshakes so that if anyone approaches them they have a defacto means of defending themselves. Dan H has informed me he won't wear Adidas as it makes his scrotum itch so is sporting a New Balance one.............

 


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Originally posted by Jimenez

Hearing from inside sources that Maine, Maple & Wisbech are chained to the Selhurst Park gates wearing nothing but Adidas jockstraps, they also have Dan H there with a fold up table with pre made milkshakes so that if anyone approaches them they have a defacto means of defending themselves. Dan H has informed me he won't wear Adidas as it makes his scrotum itch so is sporting a New Balance one.............

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Yes he does, albeit ethical rather than policital. And your point is?

Presumably you don't agree with 'shaming' organisations, for example that don't pay their taxes or use child labour. Leave it to the free market? Not my problem?

And stop with this 'if you criticise the Israeli regime you are racist', it's simple spin.

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And my point is?

Didn't you read my second paragraph?

Take your politics and apply it to political organizations.....keep it away from a football club in terms of expecting a form of political expression.

It isn't there to represent your view or my view it is there to follow the law and play football.....Not carry out what political partizans believe in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Jul 2019 8.46pm)

 

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