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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 21 9.04am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Incompetence on someoneís part that didnít spot the technical fault that led to the CCTV footage being erased as well.

Yup I can only assume that if they have a deal there is something else that has not been made public. That doesn't mean that Epstein was murdered it could be anything of value for example they overheard a conversation between Epstein and somebody that is relevant to the sex trafficking case, anyway who knows I am speculating.

 


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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 23 May 21 9.07am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Odd? If you take the statement at face value then these 2 were lazy guards who simply did not check on the welfare of their charges. So no conspiracy, no assassination just incompetence led to tragedy.

When you do a plea bargain with the prosecutors you have to have something to trade e.g. a street dealer gives up his boss the local crime lord in return for a lighter sentence.

So what have these guards got to trade? Surely nothing as he killed himself due to their neglect, there is no smoking gun, no hidden hand no brown envelopes?

The promise of your continuing silence might be quite an effective plea bargain?


 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 23 May 21 3.25pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

As an aside, I wonder who the identities of the "young name + name" DVDs recovered from Epstein's safe were, and why we will never find out. I'm guessing it wasn't a local brickie. Cameras recorded just about every location in his properties. A lot of blackmail power and a lot of enemies in high places.

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 23 May 21 7.06pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

I think you'll find he's still alive.

 

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Originally posted by Lombardinho

I think you'll find he's still alive.

Is he now being played by the original Hilary Clinton?

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Is he now being played by the original Hilary Clinton?

He shares an apartment with Elvis, allegedly

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 29 May 21 1.22am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

I think you'll find he's still alive.

Well who could doubt it. No doubt he'll free Ghislaine before the year is out. He's probably secretly working with Musk to take his ventures to Mars at this very moment. For the love of God, think about what your dogecoin is funding..

 

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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 27 Jul 21 6.40am Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

New Yorker here. The Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan has been a cesspool for many years. Procedures have been either followed in a very lax manner or not at all. The following is from Wikipedia:

"Death
Main article: Death of Jeffrey Epstein

At the time of his death, Epstein was being held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (pictured here in 2010), awaiting trial for sex-trafficking.[202]
On July 23, 2019, three weeks prior to his death, Epstein was found unconscious in his jail cell with injuries to his neck.[198][201] Epstein believed that he was attacked by his cellmate, who was awaiting trial for four counts of murder, while the correctional staff suspected attempted suicide.[202][284] After that incident, he was placed on suicide watch.[198][285] Six days later, on July 29, 2019, Epstein was taken off suicide watch and placed in a special housing unit with another inmate.[198] Epstein's close associates said he was in "good spirits".[13]

When Epstein was placed in the special housing unit, the jail informed the Justice Department that he would have a cellmate, and that a guard would look into the cell every 30 minutes. These procedures were not followed on the night of his death.[286][198][287] On August 9, 2019, Epstein's cellmate was transferred out, but no one took his place.[288] Later in the evening, contrary to the jail's normal procedure, Epstein was not checked every 30 minutes.[286][198][287] The two guards who were assigned to check his jail unit that night fell asleep and did not check on him for about three hours; the guards falsified related records.[198][289] Two cameras in front of Epstein's cell also malfunctioned that night.[16]

Epstein was found dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in New York City at 6:30 a.m. EDT on August 10, 2019.[290][291] The Bureau of Prisons said lifesaving measures were initiated immediately upon the discovery of Epstein's body. Emergency responders were called and he was taken to a hospital. On August 10, 2019, the Bureau of Prisons and U.S. Attorney General William Barr called the death an apparent suicide, although no final determination had been made.[13] The circumstances leading up to his death are being investigated by the Justice Department.[292][293]"

It should be noted that Ghislane Maxwell is being housed at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. This facility is also rather rancid and is subject to several investigations for inhumane treatment and conditions. See this extract from Wikipedia:

"Legal proceedings
Maxwell was charged with enticement of minors, sex trafficking of children, and perjury.[6][96][97] On 14 July 2020, federal Judge Alison Nathan of the Southern District of New York denied Maxwell bail after determining that her risks of fleeing "are simply too great".[98] Prosecutors, led by United States District Attorney Audrey Strauss, have charged her with six federal crimes, including enticement of minors, sex trafficking, and perjury.[96][99][100][101] The indictment charged that between 1994 and 1997, she "assisted, facilitated, and contributed" to the abuse of minor girls despite knowing that one of three unnamed victims was 14 years old.[102]

As of 28 April 2021, Maxwell was being held at the Metropolitan Detention Center, Brooklyn, New York.[103][104][105] Lawyers requested that Judge Nathan release her on $5 million bond with monitored home confinement while awaiting trial.[106] Maxwell's attorney reiterated her request for bail on 18 December 2020, her attorneys indicating that Maxwell could reside with a friend in New York City during which time she would be under 24-hour surveillance as she awaited her July trial if she was released on bail.[107] She would not be staying with Borgerson, who has made a secured offer of US$22 million to guarantee her presence at future appearances. The bail request will be newly considered by Judge Nathan, who rejected a US$5 million bail package for Maxwell in July 2020. At that time, Nathan had agreed with prosecutors that Maxwell was an "extreme flight risk."[107] Maxwell had appeared by video link before a court in Manhattan on 14 July 2020. She pleaded not guilty to the charges.[108] A naturalised US citizen since 2002 who also holds passports from France and the United Kingdom, Maxwell was denied bail as a flight risk amid concerns regarding her "completely opaque" finances, her skill at living in hiding, and the fact that France does not extradite its citizens.[98][106][109][110][111] Her lawyers argued unsuccessfully that she was at risk of catching COVID-19 in detention. The judge set a trial date of 12 July 2021.[108][112][113]

On 28 December 2020, a further request for bail was again rejected by a judge.[114] Maxwell's bail request was opposed by alleged victim Annie Farmer.[107]

On 26 January 2021, a motion by Maxwell's attorneys challenged her grand jury indictment, claiming that it did not reflect the ethnic diversity of the jurisdiction in which the violations of the law were alleged to have occurred.[115]

On 29 March 2021, US prosecutors added new charges of sex trafficking a minor and sex trafficking conspiracy, alleging that Maxwell was involved in grooming a fourth girl, aged 14, to engage in sexual acts with Epstein between 2001 and 2004 at his Palm Beach estate.[116][117] Maxwell appeared in court on 23 April 2021 and pleaded not guilty to the additional charges; she faces six counts that include sex trafficking of a minor and sex trafficking conspiracy, in addition to two counts of perjury.[118]

Maxwell's attorneys have regularly protested about the conditions of her confinement. These include being kept awake by a light shined in her eyes every fifteen minutes to deter the chances of her committing suicide, and being denied a sleep mask.[119] One, David Marcus, protested, "There's no evidence she's suicidal. They're doing it because Jeffrey Epstein died on their watch", and that, "She's not Jeffrey Epstein, this isn't right".[119]

In April 2021, US District Judge Alison Nathan ruled that Maxwell will face two separate trials, one for the sex trafficking charges and another for perjury.[120] In May 2021, Nathan delayed the trial to 29 November 2021 after Maxwell's defence lawyers successfully argued that the sex trafficking charges added in March 2021 gave them insufficient time to investigate the new charges and prepare for trial.[121]"

Manhattan is in the Southern District of New York. Brooklyn is in the Eastern District of New York, hence different jurisdictions in the U.S. Federal Justice System.

 


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Great information, Thanks, is the Jeffrey Epstein stuff new information, i don't recall he had a cell mate, i may have just missed it

 

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One, David Marcus, protested, "There's no evidence she's suicidal. They're doing it because Jeffrey Epstein died on their watch", and that, "She's not Jeffrey Epstein, this isn't right".

This seems like an odd objection. Isnít this what legal precedent means?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

One, David Marcus, protested, "There's no evidence she's suicidal. They're doing it because Jeffrey Epstein died on their watch", and that, "She's not Jeffrey Epstein, this isn't right".

This seems like an odd objection. Isnít this what legal precedent means?

Very good point & the judge seems to agree. Also, Maxwell is considered a flight risk & therefore she has been denied bail. This is all in accordance with United States Code.

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Suicide ? Yeah, right.

 


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