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Quite amusing from a comic I've followed for a while.

All stereotypes of course but the reason stereotypes exist is because people recognize a core of truth within them.

 

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to be genuinely middle class you must have some new unfinished plaster somewhere in the home.
usually a blocked up doorway or a knock through.
dont think i've ever worked in one without this detail.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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We’re happy to make stereotypes about ‘the other side’, but are we as happy to accept stereotypes about ‘our side’?

That’s why I like this video. Dish it out, take it back!

 


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Originally posted by the.universal

We’re happy to make stereotypes about ‘the other side’, but are we as happy to accept stereotypes about ‘our side’?

That’s why I like this video. Dish it out, take it back!

When it comes to humour I don't really care if it's about me, people like me or 'others'.

If it's funny that's all that matters.

 

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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

to be genuinely middle class you must have some new unfinished plaster somewhere in the home.
usually a blocked up doorway or a knock through.
dont think i've ever worked in one without this detail.

For me....to be middle class you have to have lost contact with your family's working class roots and origins and all the mindsets.

So for me...it's not really about how much you earn, it's about the kind of stuff that is going on in your head.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

For me....to be middle class you have to have lost contact with your family's working class roots and origins and all the mindsets.

So for me...it's not really about how much you earn, it's about the kind of stuff that is going on in your head.

In my line of work I get to meet people / see their homes across the class spectrum.
Very interesting.
In general, academic middle class types seem to have somewhat untidy chaotic homes where the children are pretty free spirited.
The business type middle class have tidy smart homes to the degree that even the kids rooms are totally controlled & tidy ,run by the parents with little input from the child that resides in it.
the fridge contents tells a tale too.
One client had virtually no food except packets of waitrose sandwiches!
The other extreme is the fridge full of natural veggie so that it looks like somebodys thrown it in with mud off a shovel & its organised by stig of the dump.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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spend loads on consumer goods versus spending frugally.


the former are working class.

 


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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

In my line of work I get to meet people / see their homes across the class spectrum.
Very interesting.
In general, academic middle class types seem to have somewhat untidy chaotic homes where the children are pretty free spirited.
The business type middle class have tidy smart homes to the degree that even the kids rooms are totally controlled & tidy ,run by the parents with little input from the child that resides in it.
the fridge contents tells a tale too.
One client had virtually no food except packets of waitrose sandwiches!
The other extreme is the fridge full of natural veggie so that it looks like somebodys thrown it in with mud off a shovel & its organised by stig of the dump.

I suppose in a social credit system, like they have in China, the business types would be at the top of the tree.

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

spend loads on consumer goods versus spending frugally.
the former are working class.

I know what you mean though we also have a lot of working class who work hard but barely have their heads above water....pay cheque to pay cheque.....who aren't putting it all on the 'never never' card.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 29 Sep 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Watched the sketch and found it a little more nuanced than the 'working v middle' class trope with racial stereotypes coming into play.

My Croatian wife is convinced that our school (a Croydon Comprehensive that gets more right than wrong) puts more pressure on kids with foreign parent(s) because it has more faith in them to ensure their children do well.

That the aspirations that drove these parents to leave their home countries and come and live here can be effectively harnessed more easily than the natives who almost have had it to easy in someways and who, for a variety of cultural reasons, put less emphasis on academic success.

I am sure all sorts of holes can be bored into that, and I guess the story is probably different in other parts of London with different socio-economic pressures but I can see where she is coming from.

All the kids I know going on to study medicine and so on all have at least one foreign parent.

 

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Originally posted by Matov

Watched the sketch and found it a little more nuanced than the 'working v middle' class trope with racial stereotypes coming into play.

My Croatian wife is convinced that our school (a Croydon Comprehensive that gets more right than wrong) puts more pressure on kids with foreign parent(s) because it has more faith in them to ensure their children do well.

That the aspirations that drove these parents to leave their home countries and come and live here can be effectively harnessed more easily than the natives who almost have had it to easy in someways and who, for a variety of cultural reasons, put less emphasis on academic success.

I am sure all sorts of holes can be bored into that, and I guess the story is probably different in other parts of London with different socio-economic pressures but I can see where she is coming from.

All the kids I know going on to study medicine and so on all have at least one foreign parent.


I take the implied point about meritocracy.

However, have a look at the GDP of Croatia...or indeed most other countries and compare them to ours.

The 'real' English are fine.....and its duds are still worthy of their birthright because essentially.....they are our duds.

I'm not going to sell them out because someone with a foreign accent is higher achieving than them.

Allegiance matters more......though I accept that there is a wider European allegiance also.


Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Sep 2019 1.42pm)

 

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Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

to be genuinely middle class you must have some new unfinished plaster somewhere in the home.
usually a blocked up doorway or a knock through.
dont think i've ever worked in one without this detail.


You see the difference between you - Kingdowie and Willo is that I look up to Willo, but look down on you.

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