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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 16 Aug 20 1.22pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

It's hard not to be pessimistic given recent windows. There are a couple of patterns though: one is that we often seem to stalk a player to the point of a restraining order being issued before finally getting our man; the other transfer we seem to do is the one no one hears about until Roy is giving them an awkward handshake and pat on the back. The headline catching tug of wars never seem to pan out and only seem to serve to frustrate us supporters. I'm torn between enjoying the speculation and rumour mongering, and being frustrated that all these 'gonna happen tomorrow/next week/soon' so rarely seem to come to fruition. I was convinced last summer that we would do more in the market and we didn't. The same applies to January.

I just had an 8-inch stick shoved up my nose to check for COVID only to come home and find I'd locked myself out. Just for once it would be good if the club could give us a nice surprise to cover up the general misery of existence.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Aug 20 2.15pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

I thought I was a pessimist (hence my nom de plume) but there are so many prophets of doom amongst my fellow posters, I think I ought to change my moniker.

Let's see what happens in the next two weeks and hope that Dazza's optimism will be rewarded in some way.

after all, there's hardly been a flurry of signings by other smaller PL clubs so far so we're not alone by any means.

That is true but maybe that is because they have bought well over previous windows. We have had 3/4 bad windows on the trot.

Just a though as each windows closes and we don't get our targets the club says we made bids etc. well what happened to that money? Does it just disappear into the ether or is rolled over to the next window?

 


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View coulsdoneagle's Profile coulsdoneagle Flag London 16 Aug 20 2.20pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Because he was out of contract and the fact he is a youngster it is compensation rather than a transfer fee that is payable. I fail to see how this can be a gigantic amount as it is based on the cost of training etc. I'm sure someone who knows more about this sort of thing can elaborate. I may be wrong but isn't this what happened to us with Bostock?

We offered about 10-12 in January that was accepted apparently. Then when the medical failed we waited and got him for free. Apparently WBA were not going to accept any less than 6 million when we offered it a couple of weeks back and out offer was rejected out of hand. It was so far away from what they wanted that they have decided to wait for a tribunal. Good to see that we are cheap even with our free transfers. I’d imagine we will be forced to pay them a few million. I’d be surprised if it’s as high as the 6 they wanted but seeing as we had offered over 10 million some months earlier I’m sure they will get at least 3 or 4 at a tribunal.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 16 Aug 20 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

We offered about 10-12 in January that was accepted apparently. Then when the medical failed we waited and got him for free. Apparently WBA were not going to accept any less than 6 million when we offered it a couple of weeks back and out offer was rejected out of hand. It was so far away from what they wanted that they have decided to wait for a tribunal. Good to see that we are cheap even with our free transfers. I’d imagine we will be forced to pay them a few million. I’d be surprised if it’s as high as the 6 they wanted but seeing as we had offered over 10 million some months earlier I’m sure they will get at least 3 or 4 at a tribunal.

Very useful info, many thanks

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 16 Aug 20 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

We offered about 10-12 in January that was accepted apparently. Then when the medical failed we waited and got him for free. Apparently WBA were not going to accept any less than 6 million when we offered it a couple of weeks back and out offer was rejected out of hand. It was so far away from what they wanted that they have decided to wait for a tribunal. Good to see that we are cheap even with our free transfers. I’d imagine we will be forced to pay them a few million. I’d be surprised if it’s as high as the 6 they wanted but seeing as we had offered over 10 million some months earlier I’m sure they will get at least 3 or 4 at a tribunal.

This is where I get a bit confused with how it works. Compensation shouldn’t be related to transfer fees whatsoever. If a player is a free agent then he is a free agent, however to ensure that clubs are not fleeced of their youngsters, the tribunal agrees a fee that covers the cost of their evolution throughout the club. It should not on that basis be a huge number however.

 

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View sotac464's Profile sotac464 Flag Berkshire 16 Aug 20 7.07pm Send a Private Message to sotac464 Add sotac464 as a friend

Originally posted by Petereagle

Very useful info, many thanks

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 16 Aug 20 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I am starting to see the same familiar pattern emerging from CPFC.
Lots of talk and rumours. Plenty of posturing. Trying to get players on the cheap for money that Clubs won't entertain which in due course demotivates the player we say we want and so he goes elsewhere.
The new season starts with much shrugging of shoulders and dramatic sighing about the state of the overpriced market and Roy is left to once again try and coax bored, ageing and tired players to over perform just one more time in his dull system.
I hope to be proved wrong and to have to eat my words!

Edited by The Dolphin (16 Aug 2020 8.37am)

Edited by The Dolphin (16 Aug 2020 8.37am)

Its depends on your standpoint of the valuation of the player. Most of the players, we appear to be linked with haven't ever played at Premier level. The lesson of Sorloth is still fresh in the mind.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Aug 20 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nice to see you back ME. Enjoyed getting your spare time back for a while?

Seconded.

Not lot has changed though during your time away.

People still moan about our lack of signings.

Meanwhile, back on the "News and Politics" board the same old merry band post their reactionary opinions.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Aug 20 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Seconded.

Not lot has changed though during your time away.

People still moan about our lack of signings.

Meanwhile, back on the "News and Politics" board the same old merry band post their reactionary opinions.

Yawn you really can’t help yourself can you

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Aug 20 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yawn you really can’t help yourself can you

Either say something nice to Midlands or simply don’t barge into other people’s conversations.

 

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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 16 Aug 20 10.29pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

I maybe wrong but don’t they work the fee out based on the category of the club’s academy and the length of time the player has been with the club? This gives them an idea of the money the club has invested on the players development and a rough figure for compensation.
That said Liverpool had to pay burley 6.5 million in compensation when he rejected a contract and moved to them He was a premier league goal scorer at point.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Aug 20 6.39am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Either say something nice to Midlands or simply don’t barge into other people’s conversations.

You do know you are not a teacher now don’t you?

Perhaps at times you should follow this advice yourself. This is a thread about signings so it was totally irrelevant and unnecessary for WE to mention the News and Politics thread and have a dig at the posters, whose views he does not agree with.
As for ME I believe he is aware that I very much like his moderation and most of his posts.

 

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