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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 16 Feb 20 8.46am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

With Parish in charge it couldn't be achieved by late August 2025.

Fixed.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 16 Feb 20 9.24am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Fixed.

I sincerely wish that was a joke, but...

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 16 Feb 20 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

Which is starting from scratch no?

Looking at this summer as a clean slate, so from now until then looking at ways to get rid of the dead wood..

Sakho - get him sold, loaned out in the summer - do what it takes to get it done. To injury prone and isn't the future.
Dann - done I believe in summer.
Meyer - Cash in - it's just not working.
PVA - Cash in - better options out there.
Wickham - sell.

Zaha - time is right to sell.

A LB, RB main priority as are two strikers. Loan market could work well.

Telling me starting now, this can't be achieved by late July?
Then moving on from there, it's all about youth and resell and using a proper scouting network?

Let's say anybody wants to buy Sakho or Meyer considering their wages (as for Wickham, no chance of anyone paying for him). That still leaves the likes of Benteke (120k p/w), Schlupp, McCarthy, Kouyate all on 50-60k p/w.

If we sold all the players you mentioned, we would need a first-team left-back, a first-team right-back, another centre-back, a first-team striker, and one or two more wide attacking options.

The key point is that we apparently don't have the transfer nous or scouting ability to find the players we need. Furthermore, we seem to be in a financial hole and aren't willing to spend anything. My worry is that it's already too late to fix the problems we have.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 16 Feb 20 4.14pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Benteke is out of contract in the summer?
Either way it has to start this summer and if we can get those out then work on the rest next year - itís progress. Thing is we will have to pay some higher wages and schlupp and McCarthy for now I feel are justifiable.
This is why I say (and with gritted teeth) that next season we have to expect it to be a transition season where we have lost some players and using cheaper alternatives that may take time.

It really does highlight the mess we are in and after 8 years have no legacy of our time here in the prem

But we have to have faith that it can be restored

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 16 Feb 20 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

Benteke is out of contract in the summer?
Either way it has to start this summer and if we can get those out then work on the rest next year - itís progress. Thing is we will have to pay some higher wages and schlupp and McCarthy for now I feel are justifiable.
This is why I say (and with gritted teeth) that next season we have to expect it to be a transition season where we have lost some players and using cheaper alternatives that may take time.

It really does highlight the mess we are in and after 8 years have no legacy of our time here in the prem

But we have to have faith that it can be restored

He was going to be until we extended his contract.

The rebuilding does need to start ASAP... Though I think that's going to have to include massive improvements to our scouting network and transfer team that will not happen.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 16 Feb 20 10.30pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

He was going to be until we extended his contract.

The rebuilding does need to start ASAP... Though I think that's going to have to include massive improvements to our scouting network and transfer team that will not happen.

Agree - we need to be putting faith into players we sign, that they will hit the ground running, work as a team and have aspirations to play higher, so they either take us higher, or move on.

I reckon the extension was a hope he would turn it around and play good to get a better move/cash.

No more - 'let's buy this out of favour star with big wages to do a job' (Sakho/Benteke) and 'this guy will do' (McCarthy, Milo, Meyer).

We should be telling said players they have no future after the summer and to think about elsewhere. Obviously make sure they won't play crap.

But the wilf money should already be lined up for 3 players that each have plan B and C.

I would give Roy one more year to see us steady the ship then next summer, 2021 push on

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Feb 20 1.19am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I don't see Wilf money will get three decent players after Man U paid and other hands taken some share

Originally posted by Vaibow

Agree - we need to be putting faith into players we sign, that they will hit the ground running, work as a team and have aspirations to play higher, so they either take us higher, or move on.

I reckon the extension was a hope he would turn it around and play good to get a better move/cash.

No more - 'let's buy this out of favour star with big wages to do a job' (Sakho/Benteke) and 'this guy will do' (McCarthy, Milo, Meyer).

We should be telling said players they have no future after the summer and to think about elsewhere. Obviously make sure they won't play crap.

But the wilf money should already be lined up for 3 players that each have plan B and C.

I would give Roy one more year to see us steady the ship then next summer, 2021 push on

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 18 Feb 20 1.28am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

If Wilf goes for let's say... 55 mil. Let's say United get 20% max... any more and Parish is a fool, that leaves us 44 mil, let's say with the AWB money, the end of year money... there should be 60 mil to invest on good players, we should be looking at 10,15 mil players from lower/foreign leagues.

 


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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 18 Feb 20 12.35pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

If Wilf goes for let's say... 55 mil. Let's say United get 20% max... any more and Parish is a fool, that leaves us 44 mil, let's say with the AWB money, the end of year money... there should be 60 mil to invest on good players, we should be looking at 10,15 mil players from lower/foreign leagues.


Word was when the deal was done it is closer to 40% its just the media has now started to claim it's around 25% but insiders still say it's more.

SP is a idiot

Their is not positives to being relegated the Championship is a very difficult league so you can't even guarantee we would come straight back up.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 18 Feb 20 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

If Wilf goes for let's say... 55 mil. Let's say United get 20% max... any more and Parish is a fool, that leaves us 44 mil, let's say with the AWB money, the end of year money... there should be 60 mil to invest on good players, we should be looking at 10,15 mil players from lower/foreign leagues.

Is Parish really a fool, he brought back Zaha for £3.4m. Zaha arguably has kept us in the Premier, bringing in millions. We will not get the £80m being asked, if he goes for about £45m, less Utds cut could be nett £30m. We would then make a profit of £26m on the deal.

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 18 Feb 20 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Indeed Zaha has been fantastic for us. The problem is not with him its the rest of the squad that has very little resale value.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag 18 Feb 20 7.43pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Is Parish really a fool, he brought back Zaha for £3.4m. Zaha arguably has kept us in the Premier, bringing in millions. We will not get the £80m being asked, if he goes for about £45m, less Utds cut could be nett £30m. We would then make a profit of £26m on the deal.


He didn't bring him back for just 3.4m you are missing the big loan fee

the deal ended up costing the same as United paid up front for him SP said this himself so it was 8m-12m

Sounds good doesn't it the profit but in the current market it's not and would also show United ended up paying even less for Wan.

But no point saying anything negative about SP to you we all know you love him


 

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