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Spiderman Horsham 31 May 20 11.43am
Originally posted by Mapletree Much of the criticism either shows a lack of understanding, is reductio ad absurdum or is of rare incidents. If overall the way we discussed such issues were less about rabid extremists and more a grown up debate about the issues then the pros and cons of raising and eating meat and types of husbandry could be better understood by all. And we could all make informed decisions not based on he or she who shouts loudest. Here are pigs Edited by Mapletree (31 May 2020 9.09am) Yes you are correct, they are pigs. Looks a bit crowded in their cosy home, still they should keep warm and not want for company. Are the rabid extremists only on one side of the argument?
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Horsham 31 May 20 11.43am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Much of the criticism either shows a lack of understanding, is reductio ad absurdum or is of rare incidents. If overall the way we discussed such issues were less about rabid extremists and more a grown up debate about the issues then the pros and cons of raising and eating meat and types of husbandry could be better understood by all. And we could all make informed decisions not based on he or she who shouts loudest.

Here are pigs

Edited by Mapletree (31 May 2020 9.09am)

Yes you are correct, they are pigs. Looks a bit crowded in their cosy home, still they should keep warm and not want for company.
Are the rabid extremists only on one side of the argument?

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chris123 hove actually 31 May 20 12.08pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Of course they don't Chris. Look up Fiona Onasanya. MPs are elected by voters in their constituency; they are not employed by Parliament. They do not have a contract of employment, standardised working hours, or targets for their performance. They can have the whip removed and not selected to stand again. And they can go the Chiltern Hundreds route and resign.
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hove actually 31 May 20 12.08pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Of course they don't Chris. Look up Fiona Onasanya.

MPs are elected by voters in their constituency; they are not employed by Parliament. They do not have a contract of employment, standardised working hours, or targets for their performance.

They can have the whip removed and not selected to stand again. And they can go the Chiltern Hundreds route and resign.

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Mapletree Croydon 31 May 20 1.03pm
Originally posted by chris123 They can have the whip removed and not selected to stand again. And they can go the Chiltern Hundreds route and resign. Yes. So in four years’ time she may lose her job. Whereas an employee with less than two years’ service can be dismissed with notice.
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Croydon 31 May 20 1.03pm

Originally posted by chris123

They can have the whip removed and not selected to stand again. And they can go the Chiltern Hundreds route and resign.

Yes. So in four years’ time she may lose her job. Whereas an employee with less than two years’ service can be dismissed with notice.

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dannyboy1978 31 May 20 1.04pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman [Tweet Link] Classic. One thing I have learnt is I am more against MP's than I have ever been. They are bare faced liars. And can't be trusted. They always have a devious political angle with the questioning,they are first to get pay rises. They are all scum in my eyes
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31 May 20 1.04pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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Classic.

One thing I have learnt is I am more against MP's than I have ever been. They are bare faced liars. And can't be trusted.
They always have a devious political angle with the questioning,they are first to get pay rises.
They are all scum in my eyes

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Mapletree Croydon 31 May 20 1.06pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Yes you are correct, they are pigs. Looks a bit crowded in their cosy home, still they should keep warm and not want for company. Are the rabid extremists only on one side of the argument? Not really. They like to approach humans. And they aren’t averse to checking out how they taste. I would portray the other side as rather more extremely self interested rather than philosophically extremist
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Croydon 31 May 20 1.06pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yes you are correct, they are pigs. Looks a bit crowded in their cosy home, still they should keep warm and not want for company.
Are the rabid extremists only on one side of the argument?

Not really. They like to approach humans. And they aren’t averse to checking out how they taste.

I would portray the other side as rather more extremely self interested rather than philosophically extremist

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Mapletree Croydon 31 May 20 1.07pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 One thing I have learnt is I am more against MP's than I have ever been. They are bare faced liars. And can't be trusted. They always have a devious political angle with the questioning,they are first to get pay rises. They are all scum in my eyes As are most people as far as I can tell I trust my MP.
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Croydon 31 May 20 1.07pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

As are most people as far as I can tell

I trust my MP.

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dannyboy1978 31 May 20 1.10pm
Originally posted by Mapletree As are most people as far as I can tell I trust my MP. What makes your MP any diffrent from the others?
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31 May 20 1.10pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

As are most people as far as I can tell

I trust my MP.

What makes your MP any diffrent from the others?

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 31 May 20 1.34pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 What makes your MP any diffrent from the others? Mapletrees MP is the same as all the others. The only difference is that Mapletree has some belief in their MP. Fck knows why ? "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

What makes your MP any diffrent from the others?

Mapletrees MP is the same as all the others. The only difference is that Mapletree has some belief in their MP. Fck knows why ?

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Spiderman Horsham 31 May 20 1.42pm
Originally posted by Mapletree As are most people as far as I can tell I trust my MP. My MP is relatively new, he had big shoes to fill (Francis Maude, who I did not like). Do I trust him, as of now I see no reason not too, that of course may change. Why do I trust him? He was in favour of remaining in the EU but has openly stated that he will now work to deliver the will of the people. He has also supported his constituents who have opposed building a 12 storey high incinerator and several large housing developments on brown field sites. Not always successfully but refuses to give up the fight.
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Horsham 31 May 20 1.42pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

As are most people as far as I can tell

I trust my MP.

My MP is relatively new, he had big shoes to fill (Francis Maude, who I did not like). Do I trust him, as of now I see no reason not too, that of course may change.
Why do I trust him? He was in favour of remaining in the EU but has openly stated that he will now work to deliver the will of the people. He has also supported his constituents who have opposed building a 12 storey high incinerator and several large housing developments on brown field sites. Not always successfully but refuses to give up the fight.

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Mapletree Croydon 31 May 20 2.24pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Mapletrees MP is the same as all the others. The only difference is that Mapletree has some belief in their MP. Fck knows why ? I see, they are all the same. Just like all employees are the same I assume you don't bother voting then. I don't know why I bother interviewing new hires either. Sarah Jones has done well so far. On the other hand, I really don't like Chris Philp.
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Croydon 31 May 20 2.24pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Mapletrees MP is the same as all the others. The only difference is that Mapletree has some belief in their MP. Fck knows why ?

I see, they are all the same. Just like all employees are the same

I assume you don't bother voting then. I don't know why I bother interviewing new hires either.

Sarah Jones has done well so far.

On the other hand, I really don't like Chris Philp.

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chris123 hove actually 31 May 20 2.26pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Yes. So in four years’ time she may lose her job. Whereas an employee with less than two years’ service can be dismissed with notice. Unless you resign as an MP, I just don't think there's any real comparison.
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hove actually 31 May 20 2.26pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yes. So in four years’ time she may lose her job. Whereas an employee with less than two years’ service can be dismissed with notice.

Unless you resign as an MP, I just don't think there's any real comparison.

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BlueJay UK 31 May 20 2.31pm
I wonder where the numbers will be at in a months time. If they're quite stable on account of muddling along but being sensible with it, then that will be a relief to many. If numbers creep up, I can't imagine them rowing back to another lockdown anyway tbh.
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UK 31 May 20 2.31pm

I wonder where the numbers will be at in a months time. If they're quite stable on account of muddling along but being sensible with it, then that will be a relief to many. If numbers creep up, I can't imagine them rowing back to another lockdown anyway tbh.

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