If this is indeed the truth then don’t expect any acknowledgement from the government. They are so deep in with the vaccine companies that they will deflect any good news like that to ensure everyone is frightened into taking the vaccine whether they need it or not.

COVID Christmas rumour mill

• 5 days to 3
• 3 households to 2

Can't see them binning it off entirely, the plebs would riot

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

There are two main elements to Covid. Obviously it's fatal to vulnerable people so pathways have to be reduced. Second is 'risk' and the perception of risk and the practicalities of minimising it.
Wearing a face mask and using hand gel minimises risk, but it doesn't provide immunity.
My local shopkeeper and his family have tested positive. This massively impacts his business and workers.
In theory, everyone who has been into the shop in the last week should be self-isolating and/or being tested

And here's the real rub. The village where i live is Tier 2. The next nearest shop is Tier 3 (about 8 miles away)
So i have to drive 15 miles (and no doubt all the other villagers do) to the next shop in Tier 2, where we are now potential spreaders.

And putting petrol in the car , there was a white van with two 'youngsters' going into the shop without masks.
Obviously we have differences on a football internet forum, based on our own life experiences.
But CV19 has just made me realise how many fvckwits we have in society

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

I actually thought 5 days wasn’t necessary. But then I thought it makes no difference if it’s the same people and only those people. But of course in many cases it wouldn’t be because it never is. Between Christmas and new year people see other people and family beyond immediate family.

I wonder how many who have already planned on 3+ households will change to 2.

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‘Registered weekly deaths involving COVID-19 in England and Wales have fallen for the first time in three months, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) says.

In the week ending 4 December, there were 2,835 deaths where "novel coronavirus" was mentioned on the death certificate.’

Taking a while to report week ending 11 December maybe? It’s now 15 December.

If deaths continue to fall while positives rise then the same questions will be asked again and Badger’s doctor friend and history of viruses are probably right.

Unless of course governments cause a ‘third wave.’

I haven’t looked at the effect of lockdown 2 on this fall in deaths week ending 4th December but there was more compliance at the start of the month and then people didn’t comply as the month went on. The dates don’t help with Christmas in 9-10 days but where are the death numbers for week ending 11 December? With a bit more time or the death numbers they could categorically say that the virus is behaving naturally and unless lockdown does really mean lockdown then it’s purely political. Cue shielding the vulnerable is impossible arguments. (Depends how far you stretch vulnerable)

Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Dec 2020 5.04pm)

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How are we looking on hospital capacity? A while ago we had improved true Covid patient turnaround.

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