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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Apr 21 1.41pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That first lockdown should never have lasted as long as it did, especially keeping hospitals closed and empty all summer, but of course you get the usual hysterical bunch, and Covid scared selfish, who blame ‘help out to eat out’ for the 2nd Covid season (or wave as they’re now using to to alert people we could have ‘exponential’ infections on a vaccinated population, and probably deaths as well). We’re now hearing of modelling that could see deaths in July as high as in January, when we had minimal deaths last year in July with no vaccine compared to this year with most vulnerable vaccinated and probably all adults having dose 1 by then.

This is facking ridiculous and some other people need to be involved in this and not just the zero Covid obsessed medics and Boris Johnson haunted by the mistakes at the beginning while now using strategies 12 months too late, even if we’re using tests already paid for, which of course is just to try to show they weren’t a waste of money and bought too late and something correct was done the whole time. They have their zero Covid obsession and I have zero confidence in these people removed from real life steering the country into the rocks while leading the way out of it weirdly.

By all accounts the first lockdown came too late (they effectively allowed Covid to be seeded all over the country by International travel, then imposed a long longdown when the damage was already done). That said, there was little support for a lockdown until it was more than obvious that the situation was bad so that's always going to be the issue.

Eat Out to Help Out was an absurd idea all along. Even saying 'Just get on with life as normal' would have been preferable to lurching from a long total lockdown, to encouraging tens of millions of half price sit down meals over a very short period of time inside stuffy venues. It may well have given businesses a short lived boost, but rationally speaking it also made people act unnaturally (many more meals out than normal) in ideal circumstances for increasing the spread of Covid. Nobody was vaccinated back then and so it completely went against the purpose and efforts of the lockdown.

With half the population + now one dose vaccinated we appear to be going the Israel route, which we can see is successful so far. An opening up co-inciding with those most vulnerable becoming fully vaccinated. All that matters is avoiding huge numbers of hospitalisations and based on where we are right now, I think we'll achieve that and hope that those predicting otherwise are wrong.

It's not an ideal situation by any means, but we are where we are and if we look to the longterm 'do nothing' countries like Brazil with 4,195 deaths in the past 24 hours alone, was that really an economy and health boosting wonder move either? Or the 'we've cracked it!' efforts of Sweden, who it turns out hadn't. Every outcome is a sh!t outcome in one regard or another. I personally can't really see the public putting up with another lockdown though, so we should all 'hope' that the gradual opening up and vaccination campaign have done the job.


 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 07 Apr 21 1.42pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Covid: Brazil has more than 4,000 deaths in 24 hours for first time - [Link]

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.18pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Looks like under 30"s going to be advised not to take the oxford jab , go for the physer or moderna instead, looks like the europeans were one step ahead of us and wern"t just playing brexit revenge after all, fair play to europe, lets hope boris and his cronies face the music after telling us how safe the oxford jab was!Lets hope boris and jacob don"t have shares in the oxford company, god forbid nanny!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Apr 21 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Looks like under 30"s going to be advised not to take the oxford jab , go for the physer or moderna instead, looks like the europeans were one step ahead of us and wern"t just playing brexit revenge after all, fair play to europe, lets hope boris and his cronies face the music after telling us how safe the oxford jab was!Lets hope boris and jacob don"t have shares in the oxford company, god forbid nanny!

1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe.

2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.

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Originally posted by Badger11

1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe.

2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.

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They are stopping giving it to middle aged people, not unsafe, just as they are less likely to get ill from covid its not worth the risk of a blood clot taking it, however little that is, we are advising under 30"s to go with the moderna or pfizer ourselves!

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

1. EU did not say AZ was unsafe for under 30's their politicians have been all over the place with contradictory statements and the EMA has said until today it was safe.

2. AZ is producing the vaccine largely at cost if Boris and his pals want to make a quick buck they should have bought Pfizer shares.

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At cost? That"s after all "parties" have been paid off, and boris and his cronies are sure to have had their hands in the pot!

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 07 Apr 21 4.23pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


They are stopping giving it to middle aged people, not unsafe, just as they are less likely to get ill from covid its not worth the risk of a blood clot taking it, however little that is, we are advising under 30"s to go with the moderna or pfizer ourselves!

Yes, looks like 20 million jabs and 79 blood clots and 19 deaths - so 1 in a million.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Apr 21 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


At cost? That"s after all "parties" have been paid off, and boris and his cronies are sure to have had their hands in the pot!

Like I said Pfizer is the one that is expensive that i where the big bucks are. Not saying your wrong about profiteering just think wrong drug company.

 


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I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Apr 21 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice

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Absolutely.
The reprobates deserve to be horse whipped.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Apr 21 9.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


At cost? That"s after all "parties" have been paid off, and boris and his cronies are sure to have had their hands in the pot!

Glad to see you held back for three days. Uber under the skin again I guess. Did boris shag your bird, or boyfriend (pc) or do you really wish you were him. Seems to be a deep amount of hatred for the tories. Have you considered joining a site with a few like minded people. Even st20 is a little less radical than you. High Blood pressure coming your way I reckon.

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

I hope we can all agree that this behaviour is disgusting and those concerned should face severe justice

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Complete madness badger, i hadn"t heard about this.

 

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