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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 31 Mar 21 10.13pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Firstly, you appear to have an over-inflated opinion of yourself if you think that I should answer to you. I already gave an adequate reply when you previously asked if I had taken the vaccine. Maybe I already had the vaccine. Maybe I haven't been offered it yet. Maybe I am exempt. Whichever, I feel no compulsion to share those details of my private life with anybody. And it's certainly none of your business.

Haha. That's good with me, mystery man. I do apologise for infringing upon your 'private life' with regard to asking whether you've had a vaccine you've coined as 'unsafe'. Hilarious cop out, better than self reflection any day of the week. 10/10.

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Secondly, you have learnt nothing about my thoughts. You have made assumptions. You then go on to cast aspersions about me which are false. Prove the 'unsafe for years' and 'civilisations falling' and a 'species killing itself' quotes are mine, or get of your sanctimonious soap-box and stop bothering me.

No Tim, you've learned nothing about your thoughts.

These are direct quotes. If you don't believe these things, don't say them. I don't buy for a second that anyone would come out with such wild things and then 'forget' they'd done so. The latter two were in this very thread..

"In fact I cannot be bothered to try and debate with such a closed mind as you have Blue Jay. You try to impose your ideas, but don't listen to others. The vaccine will not be safe for years, as stated by Becky. So we will have to lockdown until then according to you. You need help."

Ironically the only lie in the above, from you of course, is that I've never at any point claimed that we should endlessly continue with lockdowns. In fact since the first one I've stated that it's very much a judgement call with negatives to lockdowns or otherwise.

Edited by BlueJay (31 Mar 2021 10.14pm)

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 31 Mar 21 10.15pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Darwin 101. Adapt to survive (evolve).

Knut 101. Hold back the tide* (virus).

We will have to adapt or die, medicine can save us for a while, but nature will prevail. Mankind survived far worse "plagues". The natural world will always exist. We will not. Unless we adapt to the changes. As the dinosaurs don't exist now because they didn't/couldn't adapt, so we will cease to exist if we don't adapt. To believe otherwise is arrogance. This planet is a complete insignificance to the universe, yet the "higher" intelligence of the planet think they can change the course of anything.

So. Lets lock down. Do nothing. Let old people do nothing until they die. Nobody do anything. A species killing itself. All for what? A vaccine every year. Until the next virus. C-19 + Flu already, plus... what? Another variant? Another virus different? Lock down some more?

How about some life? We don't have long, so why lock us ALL down! Almost a year of lost life for EVERYBODY. Not the vulnerable, or elderly, who make up a small portion of the population, EVERYONE. For each life saved, years of life have been wasted for "locked down" people. Mainly the future of the race.

You advocates of these laws have a lot to answer for. This is how civilizations fall.

*Knut was demonstrating that he could hold back the tide no better than God by the way.

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (23 Feb 2021 1.37am)


Again, in a week or so more normality will resume. We should all hope for the best going forward, and have a community minded approach. I know it's been tough, but that's the only show in town really. Over half of the 'adult' population have been vaccinated. It's abig achievement. If it all still goes to hell, then it does, but really it's a time for at least a glimmer of optimism about the coming months.

Edited by BlueJay (31 Mar 2021 10.22pm)

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 31 Mar 21 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

BJ, you carry on taking everything I say out of context for your personal pleasure. I really have no more time for you. Your condescention knows no bounds. You are a very unlikeable person. You have picked an argument with me over a remark about misuse of covid 'guidelines', and dragged up months old comments to try and disqualify me. You even failed to read the Tim Black article that I posted. And as for what you think you know about me, you know nothing. As is how I want it. I don't do facebook or twitter or any of the other s*** that everyone else does for that very reason. All you know about me is what I want you to know.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Apr 21 12.17am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

BJ, you carry on taking everything I say out of context for your personal pleasure. I really have no more time for you. Your condescention knows no bounds. You are a very unlikeable person. You have picked an argument with me over a remark about misuse of covid 'guidelines', and dragged up months old comments to try and disqualify me. You even failed to read the Tim Black article that I posted. And as for what you think you know about me, you know nothing. As is how I want it. I don't do facebook or twitter or any of the other s*** that everyone else does for that very reason. All you know about me is what I want you to know.

Personally I think he nailed it. Absolute flip flopping nonsense

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 01 Apr 21 12.19am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

BJ, you carry on taking everything I say out of context for your personal pleasure. I really have no more time for you. Your condescention knows no bounds. You are a very unlikeable person. You have picked an argument with me over a remark about misuse of covid 'guidelines', and dragged up months old comments to try and disqualify me. You even failed to read the Tim Black article that I posted. And as for what you think you know about me, you know nothing. As is how I want it. I don't do facebook or twitter or any of the other s*** that everyone else does for that very reason. All you know about me is what I want you to know.

I posted your quotes within the context of your actual posts - I neither added nor subtracted anything. You proclaimed how unsafe the vaccine would be 'for years'.. and out there 'species killing itself' views to lockdown. And I haven't even touched on the thalidomide type angles previously just thrown out there like nothing. Some threw everything at the vaccine - nothing stuck. It was all very unfortunate and I purposefully and repeatedly sought clarity because misinformation or entirely unfounded takes can result in others making bad decisions at this time that cost them dearly.

Putting these things out there, then not withdrawing them and going on an endless 'will I, won't I' guessing game about whether you intend to get vaccinated (because you realise how ludicrous a complete change of heart appears) is self indulgent and belittles something that is so important at this time.

In any case, it appears that you do actually now intend to get vaccinated. I'm glad you've had a rational change of heart - no doubt down to the successful roll out, and people drumming home the facts of the matter, regardless of how you greet them at the time (profanity etc). If the outcome is you and yours doing the right thing, that's good enough for me. By virtue of having it, one would imagine it would bring about a more balanced and sensible take going forward. Be grateful. Many of us are.


Edited by BlueJay (01 Apr 2021 12.39am)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Apr 21 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I wondered where to share this, but I suppose this is probably as appropriate a place as any.

As the restrictions ease but overseas holidays look impossible for a while we're bracing ourselves for a surge in UK based visitors this summer.

Having exchanged a little banter on this issue in the past I thought you might enjoy this. It was first announced 3 days ago:-

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 Apr 21 11.50pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Rapid, twice-weekly COVID tests to be offered to everyone in England - including home delivery - [Link]

A decent idea. It at least allows people to routinely monitor their status should they wish to need to. Useful in numerous situations and households.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 04 Apr 21 11.53pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Boris is now rowing back on this pub idea and has said it may not come into effect until the end of July when everyone has been offered the jab.

This still all seems very much in the air. Toss a coin time at number 10!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 05 Apr 21 7.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Rapid, twice-weekly COVID tests to be offered to everyone in England - including home delivery - [Link]

A decent idea. It at least allows people to routinely monitor their status should they wish to need to. Useful in numerous situations and households.

For the responsible I agree. A friend mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.

She has vulnerable people in her household and hasn't seen her own mother for a year. She is concerned about giving her mother the virus or vice versa.

She just wanted a level of confidence that they could all take the test before meeting up.

 


One more point

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Flag 05 Apr 21 8.01am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

For the responsible I agree. A friend mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.

She has vulnerable people in her household and hasn't seen her own mother for a year. She is concerned about giving her mother the virus or vice versa.

She just wanted a level of confidence that they could all take the test before meeting up.

If we’re all vaccinated by august why would any of us need a test at all?

 

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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 05 Apr 21 9.03am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Rapid, twice-weekly COVID tests to be offered to everyone in England - including home delivery - [Link]

A decent idea. It at least allows people to routinely monitor their status should they wish to need to. Useful in numerous situations and households.

With LFT having a false positive rate of (conservatively) 1000 per million tested then, if everyone used the tests we would see 67,000 false positives per twice weekly test - what a great opportunity for Johnson to panic and then lockdown again.

This might have been useful 12 months ago but cannot see the point now.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 05 Apr 21 9.20am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

With LFT having a false positive rate of (conservatively) 1000 per million tested then, if everyone used the tests we would see 67,000 false positives per twice weekly test - what a great opportunity for Johnson to panic and then lockdown again.

This might have been useful 12 months ago but cannot see the point now.

What benefit is a lockdown to anyone ?

 

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