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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Mar 23 8.52am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is simply the Mail and the Telegraph trying to wind you up, and it seems they have succeeded.

This is a big nothing. Books are not scripts. Adaptations of books for stage and and screen presentation have always been done. This is nothing new at all.

Dickens was a social reformer who, if he were writing today, would doubtless say exactly what the adaptation says. It's taking his messages and trying to make them relevant to a modern audience. The only way to judge is to watch it and decide on the whole, in its context. Which is a screen in 2023. Not paper in 1861.

If you want to read the original it's still available. Nothing has been cancelled.

Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings !

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 23 9.42am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings !

It's like 1930s Germany.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Mar 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It's like 1930s Germany.

Thanks Gary.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

It's like 1930s Germany.

Yes, they will be rewriting Mein Kampf next.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Mar 23 10.22am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Yes, they will be rewriting Mein Kampf next.

My Struggle? Could be the title of PVs autobiography.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

My Struggle? Could be the title of PVs autobiography.

Adolf would get us to advance on all fronts - we might have to play in lederhosen though.

Edited by georgenorman (18 Mar 2023 10.29am)

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is simply the Mail and the Telegraph trying to wind you up, and it seems they have succeeded.

This is a big nothing. Books are not scripts. Adaptations of books for stage and and screen presentation have always been done. This is nothing new at all.

Dickens was a social reformer who, if he were writing today, would doubtless say exactly what the adaptation says. It's taking his messages and trying to make them relevant to a modern audience. The only way to judge is to watch it and decide on the whole, in its context. Which is a screen in 2023. Not paper in 1861.

If you want to read the original it's still available. Nothing has been cancelled.

Slating off the Empire is a big nothing! Many countries would probably be worse off today had it not existed.
Funny how certain posters have the view about the Mail, maybe they report on things that other outlets choose to ignore. Of course, being right wing they are obviously racist and wrong

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.58am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yet, but some books have been removed from education establishments and replaced with a ‘modern’ version; you know so as not to upset the lazy self righteous never wrong little darlings !

You do realise how often the curriculum changes don't you? Perfectly serviceable books routinely get dumped and have done for many years. It's nothing new.

Whether you, or I agree, with the reasons for each change is another matter. Some we will, some we won't, but we aren't responsible for taking the decisions.

Just remember that in the internet age kids are able to access "information" at will. Much of which is inaccurate and a lot of which we would never have seen. Schools need to counter that and be ready to answer questions. Comparing today to other schooldays makes no sense at all.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Mar 23 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You do realise how often the curriculum changes don't you? Perfectly serviceable books routinely get dumped and have done for many years. It's nothing new.

Whether you, or I agree, with the reasons for each change is another matter. Some we will, some we won't, but we aren't responsible for taking the decisions.

Just remember that in the internet age kids are able to access "information" at will. Much of which is inaccurate and a lot of which we would never have seen. Schools need to counter that and be ready to answer questions. Comparing today to other schooldays makes no sense at all.

But to change or ignore history because things didn't fit in with current thinking or might upset people is just wrong and provides a false narrative.
Being "triggered" by a Dr Seuss book doesn't prepare anyone for life.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Slating off the Empire is a big nothing! Many countries would probably be worse off today had it not existed.
Funny how certain posters have the view about the Mail, maybe they report on things that other outlets choose to ignore. Of course, being right wing they are obviously racist and wrong

It's not "slating off the Empire", is it? It is, alongside many other similar things, putting a modern interpretation on historical events, the better to prepare for our future.

No-one is suggesting that in its own context at the time it was wrong. Only that, with the benefit of hindsight, some people would ask questions. Dickens, being the social reformer he was, could easily have given one of his characters the licence to ask such such questions.

When adapting a book for the screen this is what writers do. They challenge perceptions and make people think. It's not the BBC doing anything. It's a writer interpreting a book. I expect he is pleased with the controversy as it means people are taking notice.

Yes, I criticise the Mail because it looks for things like this to dangle in front of their readership. They like to wind people up, rather than actually report events.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But to change or ignore history because things didn't fit in with current thinking or might upset people is just wrong and provides a false narrative.
Being "triggered" by a Dr Seuss book doesn't prepare anyone for life.

No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through.

This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No-one is either changing or ignoring history, of which there are many versions depending on which prism you view it through.

This is not a false narrative. It's an alternative narrative.

It's like Landing Strip One in the 1980s.

 

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