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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 10.40pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

It was certainly his take on modern history. In an essay he wrote in 1942 concerning his experiences in the Spanish Civil War, he says: "I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, 'History stopped in 1936', at which he nodded in immediate understanding ... I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various 'party lines'."

Which is miles away in meaning from the misquote you quoted. It actually supports what I am saying. That history means different things to different people.

So do you admit you were wrong? Or now claim to know what he might have said?

 


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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isn't only to do with the director. There is also funding and convincing a production company.

For sure, although some feel so passionately about their work they try to produce it themselves, sometimes in small venues.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For sure, although some feel so passionately about their work they try to produce it themselves, sometimes in small venues.

They do but there's quite a difference between mainstream television/Hollywood and a performance at the Donmar Warehouse. And even then it's hardly likely to happen.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's not great and it's not a theory.

It only takes a look at trends and an understanding of the effect of birth and mortality rates to see that.

I think you actually know this.

What I know is that you are just another example of the gullible on the right being swept up by a conspiracy theory which justifies their xenophobia. They have existed for at least 90 years in Europe.

It's certainly not great, but it is only a theory, and a deeply flawed and extremely dangerous one at that. Although the data here concentrates on the USA, the reasoning applies just as accurately to Europe.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

They do but there's quite a difference between mainstream television/Hollywood and a performance at the Donmar Warehouse. And even then it's hardly likely to happen.

Such productions do get made though, so obviously there is a demand, or they wouldn't get the funding. You might not want to see them, but enough do to get them on.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Such productions do get made though, so obviously there is a demand, or they wouldn't get the funding. You might not want to see them, but enough do to get them on.

Do they? White actors playing Black parts?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Mar 23 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Do they? White actors playing Black parts?

Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts.

The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't.

Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none.

It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere?

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts.

The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't.

Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none.

It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere?

Of course there are. James Bond is white. John Shaft is black.
This is not about real life where your points have relevance.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Which is miles away in meaning from the misquote you quoted. It actually supports what I am saying. That history means different things to different people.

So do you admit you were wrong? Or now claim to know what he might have said?

My Uncle Bert ran a bakery and Eric Blair came in and ordered a cake with “Down With Big Brother!” to be iced on it. Albert declined the order on the grounds that the message was discriminatory against elder bros, racist and sibling-phobic.
Blair came back with ‘The most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history – and censor their cakes’.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Mar 23 7.25am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Some people have different interpretations of Right and Wrong.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Mar 23 7.28am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why do you ask? There are no such things as "black" parts. There are just parts.

The point is that no-one should either notice or care. I haven't and don't.

Until we all start actually start behaving as though the concept of judging people by the content of their character and not by the colour of their skin means something, we are destined to see division where there is none.

It's happened, almost, in football. Or at least better than in other areas of life. Why not elsewhere?

I would suggest the organisations such as The National Black Police Association and MOBOs have served their purpose, run their course, and now are forming divisive barriers, rather than bringing them down

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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You can't change history - only the future.
I wish people would leave it alone and learn from past mistakes.
I wish they would channel their energy into a better life moving forward.
Absolutely bonkers s***e!

 

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