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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 07 Apr 20 5.55pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

why don't we just have a new section called 'Stirling Talk' which only has arguments about masculinity and genetic determinism in a racial context? A load of old b*ll*x in other words.

I think you will find that he's someone that will at least put forward a clear argument. You don't seem to bother.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your personality determines what your interests are. Your personality is partially determined by your genes.

That's about it.

What about this homosexual politics bit though?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Apr 20 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

why don't we just have a new section called 'Stirling Talk' which only has arguments about masculinity and genetic determinism in a racial context? A load of old b*ll*x in other words.

You introduced race into something that isn't connected to race.

 

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Originally posted by the.universal

What about this homosexual politics bit though?

What about it?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Apr 20 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe?

People know they are being lied to on a daily basis.


The Internet has opened up people to alternative news sources. Now you can split people into groups who are all listening....to an extent....to differing versions of the same event. Lots of them think their bubble is the only way to view whatever happens around them.

As society becomes more polarised people will double down rather than take in differing views.

Then you get the elites trying to impose their particular angle using laws they introduce for themselves and corporate force.

Even though we are all affected by whatever twists and turns occur, it's all very fascinating, if a little scary.

 

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.TUX. Flag 07 Apr 20 6.42pm

Originally posted by W12

If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe?

People know they are being lied to on a daily basis.


If only more would realise this simple fact.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Apr 20 7.30pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

If only more would realise this simple fact.

That's how it's been since civilisation began in one form or another.
Simple lies like I've only had two pints love, honest. How would it play out if the whole world was told the truth all the time. Anarchy, period I reckon.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Apr 20 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

If people have totally lost any trust in the media (understandably) then who can blame them for being paranoid and latching onto conspiracy theores? In the absence of truth and living in a low trust society what are you supposed to believe?

People know they are being lied to on a daily basis.


That is such a cynical and, in my opinion, false view. I trust the media 10 times more than anything whose source is the internet, which is the principal alternative. I think most people understand that.

Oh I realise that the commercial media present stories to suit their agendas and they might position them, or even ignore them completely, for the same reason. They do though have editors and lawyers fact checking. If you read a balanced selection then you will find the important facts on most things. The much maligned (on here anyway) BBC, being free from commercial pressures (if not political ones at the moment) are the bastion of unbiased information here in the UK, and in many other countries.

Compare that to the internet, where anyone, whether sane or not, with a particular agenda, or none, can publish whatever they like with very little chance of it being taken down. No editors or lawyers to restrain a blatant lie.

So there really aren't any "alternative news sources" on the web. That is about as valid a claim as Trump's "alternative facts". There are just lots of opinions blended with political mischief making. The truth will always be the truth. What it is is what separates people. So long as we recognise the difference between a "news" source which has been subjected to scrutiny before publication, and one that hasn't then no harm is done.

Conflating the two as equals is where the problems arise.


 

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.TUX. Flag 07 Apr 20 9.58pm

Originally posted by cryrst

That's how it's been since civilisation began in one form or another.
Simple lies like I've only had two pints love, honest. How would it play out if the whole world was told the truth all the time. Anarchy, period I reckon.

Would life not be better?


 


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.TUX. Flag 07 Apr 20 10.23pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is such a cynical and, in my opinion, false view. I trust the media 10 times more than anything whose source is the internet, which is the principal alternative. I think most people understand that.

Oh I realise that the commercial media present stories to suit their agendas and they might position them, or even ignore them completely, for the same reason. They do though have editors and lawyers fact checking. If you read a balanced selection then you will find the important facts on most things. The much maligned (on here anyway) BBC, being free from commercial pressures (if not political ones at the moment) are the bastion of unbiased information here in the UK, and in many other countries.

Compare that to the internet, where anyone, whether sane or not, with a particular agenda, or none, can publish whatever they like with very little chance of it being taken down. No editors or lawyers to restrain a blatant lie.

So there really aren't any "alternative news sources" on the web. That is about as valid a claim as Trump's "alternative facts". There are just lots of opinions blended with political mischief making. The truth will always be the truth. What it is is what separates people. So long as we recognise the difference between a "news" source which has been subjected to scrutiny before publication, and one that hasn't then no harm is done.

Conflating the two as equals is where the problems arise.


Which is why you, along with many, can't explain to those who follow will never be as financially healthy as you have been........no matter how hard you try.
The media that you trust has never once mentioned Sept 17th 2019.
The day the 'Everything Bubble' went pop. But you'll never understand this because you..........only listen to what your told to.
Nice.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Apr 20 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Which is why you, along with many, can't explain to those who follow will never be as financially healthy as you have been........no matter how hard you try.
The media that you trust has never once mentioned Sept 17th 2019.
The day the 'Everything Bubble' went pop. But you'll never understand this because you..........only listen to what your told to.
Nice.

You are merely doing what I have said people do. Nothing to see then. You are buying into conspiracy theories aka people's personal opinions.

I know that the economic impact consequences of this crisis will be enormous but not yet accurately foreseeable. That is being discussed in the MSM but they are, absolutely correctly in my view, concentrating on encouraging people to follow the rules whilst offering reassurance and support.

Whether the "Everything Bubble" has gone pop, or not, is just another manifestation of the plague of conspiracy theories that infect the public spaces these days.

People have forecasted the end of times throughout my life and always been wrong.

Perhaps one day they might be right. I don't think we will go back to the times we knew prior to this but we will recover.

It's far from only listening to what I am told to. I listen to a lot of the other stuff too. What I also do that it seems that some don't is evaluate it's source objectively. When you do that the cracks can appear very quickly.

 

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.TUX. Flag 07 Apr 20 11.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are merely doing what I have said people do. Nothing to see then. You are buying into conspiracy theories aka people's personal opinions.

I know that the economic impact consequences of this crisis will be enormous but not yet accurately foreseeable. That is being discussed in the MSM but they are, absolutely correctly in my view, concentrating on encouraging people to follow the rules whilst offering reassurance and support.

Whether the "Everything Bubble" has gone pop, or not, is just another manifestation of the plague of conspiracy theories that infect the public spaces these days.

People have forecasted the end of times throughout my life and always been wrong.

Perhaps one day they might be right. I don't think we will go back to the times we knew prior to this but we will recover.

It's far from only listening to what I am told to. I listen to a lot of the other stuff too. What I also do that it seems that some don't is evaluate it's source objectively. When you do that the cracks can appear very quickly.

I'll repeat as you're obviously too dumb to get it the first time around.......The media that you trust has never once mentioned Sept 17th 2019, the largest bloody financial meltdown in history.

But you know better.

 


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