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 Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 15 May 20 11.00am |
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I am not swayed by party politics, I just think the system is inherently flawed. (that doesn't make me a communist, either) What I would like to see is more accountability from MP's and politicians. Just for starters, I would suggest. * MP's be put on time-sheets so the electorate know how much time they are spending on constituency or parliamentary work. * Disclosure of fees paid to 'Scientific Advisors', ..or in fact any of the various 'Advisors'.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 May 20 1.31pm |
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You can't believe anything these days. Especially on an internet football forum. Who who have thought thought, people telling lies on social media ?
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or in politics. Badger11  Beckenham 15 May 20 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
I am not swayed by party politics, I just think the system is inherently flawed. (that doesn't make me a communist, either) What I would like to see is more accountability from MP's and politicians. Just for starters, I would suggest. * MP's be put on time-sheets so the electorate know how much time they are spending on constituency or parliamentary work. * Disclosure of fees paid to 'Scientific Advisors', ..or in fact any of the various 'Advisors'. They could start with a proper job description after all the rest of us have one something like: - Minimum number of hours doing constituency work The rest of us have a proper job description against which we are assessed and paid accordingly. I don't see why this doesn't apply to them as well.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 May 20 3.10pm |
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One thing that bothers me is lies in the manifesto. Some are downright fabricated just to get votes. I think I've said it before but how about they are only allowed to put measured and timed actual targets into the manifesto? - making it a real document. Then, when after 12 months what was promised is not delivered - a new election. As someone else said, we have measured things to do, targets to meet, and if we don't do it - we soon hear about it, or even just get the boot. The other thing that Westminster needs is some kind of proportional representation, so that the number of votes a party gets - would give them some representation. Mathematically: it is possible in the current system to get the most votes overall but actually have no seats at all! Seems mad, but if you finished second in most constituencies - that is exactly what could happen. As a caveat to that, the seats generally mirror the amount of votes; but this scenario could change in the current political climes.
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| chris123 hove actually 15 May 20 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
One thing that bothers me is lies in the manifesto. Some are downright fabricated just to get votes. I think I've said it before but how about they are only allowed to put measured and timed actual targets into the manifesto? - making it a real document. Then, when after 12 months what was promised is not delivered - a new election. As someone else said, we have measured things to do, targets to meet, and if we don't do it - we soon hear about it, or even just get the boot. The other thing that Westminster needs is some kind of proportional representation, so that the number of votes a party gets - would give them some representation. Mathematically: it is possible in the current system to get the most votes overall but actually have no seats at all! Seems mad, but if you finished second in most constituencies - that is exactly what could happen. As a caveat to that, the seats generally mirror the amount of votes; but this scenario could change in the current political climes. There was the Labour pledge last year, it was to the women born in the 50's who lost a when the retirement ages shifted for state pension - and that was after the manifesto was issued.
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cryrst  The garden of England 15 May 20 7.24pm |
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85k plus expenses and every forum thinks they can do more hours and a better job. I wouldn't want the permanent abuse ,whichever colour flag you fly.
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| YT Oxford 15 May 20 8.04pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
One thing that bothers me is lies in the manifesto. Some are downright fabricated just to get votes. I think I've said it before but how about they are only allowed to put measured and timed actual targets into the manifesto? - making it a real document. Then, when after 12 months what was promised is not delivered - a new election. As someone else said, we have measured things to do, targets to meet, and if we don't do it - we soon hear about it, or even just get the boot. The other thing that Westminster needs is some kind of proportional representation, so that the number of votes a party gets - would give them some representation. Mathematically: it is possible in the current system to get the most votes overall but actually have no seats at all! Seems mad, but if you finished second in most constituencies - that is exactly what could happen. As a caveat to that, the seats generally mirror the amount of votes; but this scenario could change in the current political climes. So MPs are just like footballers then. They keep their job for a fixed period no matter how crap they are.
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 May 20 6.05am |
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Originally posted by YT
So MPs are just like footballers then. They keep their job for a fixed period no matter how crap they are. That's every work place if you think about it.
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| Midlands Eagle 16 May 20 7.19am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
85k plus expenses and every forum thinks they can do more hours and a better job. There are a few on this forum that seem to think that they would do a better job with one in particular knowing far more than anyone in government, science or medicine judging by his comments.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 16 May 20 7.30am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
85k plus expenses and every forum thinks they can do more hours and a better job. I wouldn't want the permanent abuse ,whichever colour flag you fly. How do you judge if an MP is doing a good job when they don't have a detailed job description. I'm not saying I could do a better job but it would be nice if we could benchmark them against some form of a standard after all we are their employers.
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| DanH SW2 16 May 20 8.55am |
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They don’t do it for the money. They do it for the power and their ego. A handful do it because they want to serve the public.
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| cryrst The garden of England 16 May 20 9.31am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
How do you judge if an MP is doing a good job when they don't have a detailed job description. I'm not saying I could do a better job but it would be nice if we could benchmark them against some form of a standard after all we are their employers. You cant benchmark success when the public are your accountability. There is always one idiot.
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