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View Barely Eagle's Profile Barely Eagle Flag London 15 Jun 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Barely Eagle Add Barely Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Thatís cartoon misses the bit where they soaked their house in petrol and lit a match first, and then started telling their neighbours it was their fault the house was on fire and started smashing the neighbours house up.


Ok.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jun 20 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Barely Eagle

I'm genuinely sorry you see it that way.

If you want to be seen the same way as everyone else, the last thing you should do is divide yourself off with a specific racial description.

It smacks of Black power, not a plea for reform. When you add that to the behaviour of some of the demonstrators escalating it to violence and the damaging of statues then those suspicions appear to be confirmed.

 

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View Barely Eagle's Profile Barely Eagle Flag London 15 Jun 20 9.16pm Send a Private Message to Barely Eagle Add Barely Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If you want to be seen the same way as everyone else, the last thing you should do is divide yourself off with a specific racial description.

It smacks of Black power, not a plea for reform. When you add that to the behaviour of some of the demonstrators escalating it to violence and the damaging of statues then those suspicions appear to be confirmed.

We aren't going to agree on this.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Jun 20 9.30pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Barely Eagle

We aren't going to agree on this.

He doesnt expect agreement, its seeing both sides of the argument. It seems apparent that most white people arnt racist. It also seems apparent that most black people think the same.
Think about that. Hes right ,it is about black power and getting your own way with colour as a weapon to get your own way. Sometimes conversation is brutal and talking about racism is just that. Point being one slip of the tongue and its game over. That isnt right. How many rows do couples have and say the wrong things. It doesnt necessarily end in divorce or separation. They just move on. Ffs some black mp now thinks cocopops are racist.tell that to a 4 year old in the morning about how they are racist for eating them. That is the level this is going to and it has to stop. Division isnt that great atm but it wont take many dick heads like her to create a bigger one.

 

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View Barely Eagle's Profile Barely Eagle Flag London 15 Jun 20 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Barely Eagle Add Barely Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

He doesnt expect agreement, its seeing both sides of the argument. It seems apparent that most white people arnt racist. It also seems apparent that most black people think the same.
Think about that. Hes right ,it is about black power and getting your own way with colour as a weapon to get your own way. Sometimes conversation is brutal and talking about racism is just that. Point being one slip of the tongue and its game over. That isnt right. How many rows do couples have and say the wrong things. It doesnt necessarily end in divorce or separation. They just move on. Ffs some black mp now thinks cocopops are racist.tell that to a 4 year old in the morning about how they are racist for eating them. That is the level this is going to and it has to stop. Division isnt that great atm but it wont take many dick heads like her to create a bigger one.

It's not about black power in the eyes of many. If yourself, Hrolf and others wish to project that on to it, that's your entitlement. Cocopops aren't racist. Others are.

 

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View manoftaste's Profile manoftaste Flag Hastings 15 Jun 20 9.58pm Send a Private Message to manoftaste Add manoftaste as a friend

Very good post from HKOwen. I'm not sure the Premier League understands the nature of this organisation, although all the aggression and lawlessness last week (27 police injured!) really should have alerted it to it.
This is setting an awful precedent. Is there nothing ordinary fans can do to stop it?

Originally posted by HKOwen

Black Lives Matter is a political organisation with an extreme left wing anti capitalist / anarchic mission statement. In the UK there are two BLM groups, one is closely allied with the Socialist Workers Party.

If the PL knows this then the decision to put on shirts is bizarre, if they don't know then shame on them for bandwagon jumping.

The irony is BLM is diametrically opposed to the obscene money circulating in the PL.

This is akin to PL telling players to wear messages about Palestine or Israel.

Nobody in their right mind can be other than horrified by the killing of Mr Floyd in the USA, but the current zeitgeist is any criticism of BLM is automatically racist.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jun 20 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Barely Eagle

We aren't going to agree on this.

Fine.

My problem with this can be summed up by saying that I believe that the death of George Floyd was callous, unnecessary, and a clear case of misconduct. Perhaps even murder or manslaughter. However, I do not think that this has any bearing on circumstances in Britain and most certainly should not be used as an excuse to peddle unsound ideas about erasing historical reminders, quasi Marxist, quasi religious ideology or expanding the definitions of racism for self serving reasons.

It is all just political opportunism.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 15 Jun 20 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Barely Eagle

It's not about black power in the eyes of many. If yourself, Hrolf and others wish to project that on to it, that's your entitlement. Cocopops aren't racist. Others are.

Ok, letís say it is not black power, then what is it. What exactly justifies what is currently on in ignoring lockdown, rioting, causing criminal damage, vandalism, injuring police officers and people of the general public. Why is the philosophy of, accept BLM or you are racist, acceptable?

The vast majority of people in this country are not racist and do not want racism in society however there is no easy answer to the problems faced right across the world and we are obviously not just talking black and white. Religious divides still polarise people worldwide. Promoting the problem is good, sensibly outlining your needs is good, protesting is good, but forcing your views on others and expecting unadulterated acquiescence is not going to get you what you want and is divisive when you are actually seeking the opposite.


 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Jun 20 10.49pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Barely Eagle


Ok.

I kind of thought that would be followed by Boomer.

I am impressed with your self control

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Jun 20 10.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Many BLM protesters had a banner "silence is guilt" or something to that effect.

Well then, the fact those Eskimos in the arctic have said nothing about black lives is a shocking guilty crime on their part then ?


And the London guild of haberdashers.....a bunch of guilty b...stards

Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Jun 2020 10.58pm)

 


from the Etihad, Emirates, Molyneux, London Stadium, the Vitality, turf moor & Anfield to Old Trafford.....Raptors on the Road

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 15 Jun 20 11.12pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

PVA's interview convinced me it was the right thing to do.

All the players are trying to do is show they care with people who've been told for generations (by whites, blacks, and others) that they are not as important as everyone else.

Absolutely fine with that. We should support people and show we care.

Unfortunately, the whole things been hijacked. Social media is storing up s*** by extremist on all sides... Anti-FA and EDL both on recruitment drives, pretty sure all political parties plus Russia and China are stering the pot. Everyones too outraged to see.

The extreme left gained a core but lost votes in the North of England, Wales, Scotland. Johnson's Furlough scheme is the most socialist policy ever. Basically they've been f***ed and need to hang onto the Woke and BAME vote. They've called everyone who voted for the tories or brexit Evil... probably not a good way of winning them over.

There were unfortunately some BLM protesters in Whitehall who were mindless thugs, everywhere else seemed fine (with the exception of dumb rich kids in Bristol).

That inevitably bought out the knuckle daggers.... watching a big battle in a medieval film today made me think that those people have been bread for generation after generation like dogs to hate outsiders and go to their deaths to protect rich people.

What weve got it two groups of people belonging to the lowest achieving demographic in schools going out causing problems and catching COVID, whilst everyone else condemns them.... perhaps this is all down to education an poverty.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Online Flag Hong Kong 16 Jun 20 1.07am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

BLM has a website and collects donations so to me that is an organisation.

Philosophies don't need cash

Originally posted by Mapletree

Your very first line is incorrect which affects your whole post. BLM is not an organisation, it's effectively a philosophy as with 'Me Too'.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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