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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 03 Aug 20 8.04am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Actually no. If you have a better attack than defense yoi have more chances of staying up. Say you win 3 matches with 4-3 and lose 3 with 3-4. You have 9 points out of 6 matches.


If you win 1 match with 1-0,draw 4 0-0 or 1-1 and lose 1 match with 0-1, you have 7 points from 6 matches.

Multiply that by 38 matches. Yes,Bournemouth got relegated because they were poor defrnsively. But their attack wasn't that great either this year, with Callum Wilson not being the same, Ryan Fraser playing rarely as a starter and youngster Harry Wilson not being able to save them on his own. Also, injuries of David Brooks, Groenveld and many times Stanislas gave them few options.

But usually you get a higher chance of staying up with a good attack than with a good defence. It's mathematics. Of course, defence should not be neglected either. But it's better to play for 3 points even if it's once every 2 games than hold out for 2 draws.


in your mathematical scenario, both teams stay up. However, the attack strategy is higher risk because

W D L
3 0 3 (9pts)
can easily become
2 0 4 (6pts)
or even
1 0 5 (3pts)

whereas
W D L
1 4 1 (7pts)
may become
1 3 2 (6pts)
or even
1 2 3 (5pts)

If you are leading 1-0 with an attacking strategy you will not feel as comfortable as if that lead is with a defensive strategy.

It is well documented that we are the team with the fewest goals to stay up and the first team to fail to score 3 goals in any match and still stay up and yet we were safe before lockdown.

Furthermore, if we exclude the away game against Citeh where we led, fell behind and then drew, there were only two games where we took the lead and dropped points (Wolves at home and So'ton away) 4 points dropped, whereas we came back from losing positions to gain wins in both games against West Ham and draws against Arsenal (twice), Brighton, Norwich and Spurs (11 points gained from losing positions excluding the Citeh game).

How many points did teams like Bournemouth, West Ham and Villa drop from winning positions because of their dodgy defences?

In summary I would argue that a strategy based on a sound defence will over time prove more successful than one based on attack.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 03 Aug 20 8.09am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Personally I don’t see what is wrong with having a good attack and defence. It doesn’t have to be one or the other

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 03 Aug 20 8.13am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Roy Hodgson's ideal world - 38 0-0 results, 38 points, 17th position.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Aug 20 8.51am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

A bit left field, but, a good piece & under the radar

[Link]

 


Is joining the 'Grumpy Old Gits' Club

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 03 Aug 20 9.21am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

A bit left field, but, a good piece & under the radar

[Link]

Interesting article. Strikes me as being one decent championship job away from getting into the big time.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 03 Aug 20 9.33am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Personally I don’t see what is wrong with having a good attack and defence. It doesn’t have to be one or the other


in the ideal world, of course!

 

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View Crystal ClearCPFC's Profile Crystal ClearCPFC Flag Croydon 04 Aug 20 1.38am Send a Private Message to Crystal ClearCPFC Add Crystal ClearCPFC as a friend

What about one of these.

Sarina Wiegman

Jill Ellis

Emma Hayes

 

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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 04 Aug 20 7.33am Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Professor Roy is a class act. I’m confident that with or without Zaha we will be nowhere near relegation. We’re not great to watch as we lack creative players, but this is a results business and we’re hard to beat. This is why we keep staying up.

We saw that when we do have a bit of creativity with the likes of RLC, Batman and Cabaye that Roy is capable of attractive football.

The run of 7 defeats was pretty dire but we were mostly up against the big boys who were fighting for European qualification. Nothing to play for in empty grounds probably my gets a bit demoralising for the players.

The signing of Ferguson and the emergence of Mitchell are big positives. Eze looks like it could happen. We’re a good striker away from a decent season again. Roy is at the top of my wish list

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 04 Aug 20 1.55pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Professor Roy is a class act. I’m confident that with or without Zaha we will be nowhere near relegation. We’re not great to watch as we lack creative players, but this is a results business and we’re hard to beat. This is why we keep staying up.

We saw that when we do have a bit of creativity with the likes of RLC, Batman and Cabaye that Roy is capable of attractive football.

The run of 7 defeats was pretty dire but we were mostly up against the big boys who were fighting for European qualification. Nothing to play for in empty grounds probably my gets a bit demoralising for the players.

The signing of Ferguson and the emergence of Mitchell are big positives. Eze looks like it could happen. We’re a good striker away from a decent season again.

Please tell me who is going to provide the balls for this 'good striker'? Why did we dispense with Gayle, Murray, etc ? Because they had little provision.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 05 Aug 20 8.16pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

It is so easy to wish Roy away, to see greener grass on the other side. I have done it from time to time too.

But we are spending so little when others are spending so much and, as has been pointed out, when we had RLC we played some lovely stuff. Fulham played lovely stuff under him.

I suspect you give Roy 4 players he needs and we fly.

What I am less sure of is that we/he can identify and recruit those 4 players.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (05 Aug 2020 8.18pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Aug 20 9.40pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal ClearCPFC

What about one of these.

Sarina Wiegman

Jill Ellis

Emma Hayes

We'd get relegated but at least we would be on Sky Sports News 24/7 and first on Match of the Day every week. Plus, better to look at than our Roy (apologies Roy).

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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