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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Sep 20 11.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

You know it's quite incredible that a grown adult would seriously put forward the idea that because person A seems believable to them, that we must then believe without any other actual evidence.

Blinkers isn't the half of it, trolling more like.

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Sep 20 7.32am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did you watch the hearing? If so what did you see that I didn't?

It wasn't just what she said that was compelling, or indeed on it's own, that important. He could easily have brushed it off by apologising, saying it was over stated and misremembered teenage antics and asking people to consider his record as a man, a father and a Judge. But no, he went full on Trump and took the blanket denial route, which given the authenticity of the witness made him look like a liar.

No I didn’t as I am not that interested and have a life. I made a general comment, One which my grandfather used a lot, especially when he was discussing politics, as always you have put your own slant on it.


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Sep 20 7.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did you watch the hearing? If so what did you see that I didn't?

It wasn't just what she said that was compelling, or indeed on it's own, that important. He could easily have brushed it off by apologising, saying it was over stated and misremembered teenage antics and asking people to consider his record as a man, a father and a Judge. But no, he went full on Trump and took the blanket denial route, which given the authenticity of the witness made him look like a liar.

The witness only remembered the incident decades after it occurred and after she had undergone therapy. If the therapy was to recover her memories under hypnosis that is a discredited treatment due to the large number of cases of false memories. It may well be that she is convinced it happened when it never did.

It was a joke that the hearings were not allowed to question her on this therapy which after all was pivotal in her remembering.

As for the judge why should he apologize for something if it never happened. Just because you found her credible it doesn't mean it's a fact that she was assaulted. If you are going to destroy someone's career it might be nice to have some evidence as well.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Sep 20 8.15am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The witness only remembered the incident decades after it occurred and after she had undergone therapy. If the therapy was to recover her memories under hypnosis that is a discredited treatment due to the large number of cases of false memories. It may well be that she is convinced it happened when it never did.

It was a joke that the hearings were not allowed to question her on this therapy which after all was pivotal in her remembering.

As for the judge why should he apologize for something if it never happened. Just because you found her credible it doesn't mean it's a fact that she was assaulted. If you are going to destroy someone's career it might be nice to have some evidence as well.

Careful Wisbech is never wrong

 

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Interesting article from NY Times about Ginsberg and her decision to stay on.

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It would appear that privately many people close to her thought she was selfish not to step down when Obama was in power.

Chickens may come home to roost.

 


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