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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Oct 20 1.10pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

For at least 100 years we have now had the Women's movement. Demanding equality, fairness, rights and resources for women.

Just a few questions :

- is it 'job done' and no longer relevant ?

- what works still needs to be done ?

- is the pendulum of men's rights swinging back ?

- what examples from countries like Sweden ?

- where does it fit in the Left vs Right paradigm ?

- what are the alternatives to Feminism ?

- the role of the Media, Academia, Corporations, and Politicians.

- other thoughts ?

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What I can tell you is don't bother applying for a university position in Ireland, minor or major, if you're a man.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 03 Oct 20 1.42pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

I think feminism is in dire trouble and we are all going to be the poorer for it. Look at the vast majority of vitriol around this trans-lunacy aimed at people such as J.K.Rowling and so on.

It is women who are being told that they have to give up their safe spaces, it is women who are told that if you have the name 'Karen', then it is open season on you and it is women who find themselves having their careers threatened if they dare oppose whatever the latest letter is added to the deviant alphabet.

We should be defending feminists. They fought bloody hard for all sorts of rights and given how many women are murdered and raped every year, they truly need our support now more than ever.

 

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Third-wave and Fourth-wave Feminists seem to be at each other's throat.

And the rise of MGTOW, through the marriage statistics, seems to have taken them all by surprise. In the US, the marriage rate has halved in only 30 years.

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The male domain of Football is certainly being pushed against very hard. Getting female pundits, match officials and what not.

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Originally posted by Matov

I think feminism is in dire trouble and we are all going to be the poorer for it. Look at the vast majority of vitriol around this trans-lunacy aimed at people such as J.K.Rowling and so on.

It is women who are being told that they have to give up their safe spaces, it is women who are told that if you have the name 'Karen', then it is open season on you and it is women who find themselves having their careers threatened if they dare oppose whatever the latest letter is added to the deviant alphabet.

We should be defending feminists. They fought bloody hard for all sorts of rights and given how many women are murdered and raped every year, they truly need our support now more than ever.

I agree with this women's rights are going backward and the threat is not from misogynistic men much as Margaret Atwood would love us to believe.

It is the LGBTQ community who are eroding their rights on one side and religious extremists from the other end. My criticism of those who support women's rights is the failure to recognise this.

They screen #metoo in support of highly paid Hollywood stars who may or may not have had an unpleasant encounter and yet say nothing on Asian grooming gangs, FGM and the lack of womens rights in many countries around the world. As for the Trans Lobby very few feminists are brave enough to take them on and f they do their sisters stay silent whilst they are eviscerated.

So much for the sisterhood.

 


One more point

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Originally posted by Badger11

It is the LGBTQ community who are eroding their rights on one side and religious extremists from the other end. My criticism of those who support women's rights is the failure to recognise this.


Look to Sweden. Feminists seem to be supporting the wholesale importation of young men from parts of the Third World characterised by conservative religious extremism.
Men from Parts of the World where 'the womans place is in the home, pregnant, barefoot and chained to the stove''

certainly the freedom of women to dress as they please is under attack....from all three abrahamic faiths. So much for the liberal European nudist colony.

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I thought that originally the point of feminism was about providing women with more options in life. To an extent that's a good development but of course...it didn't stop at the sensible.

Much of the later feminism seemed to be about attacking masculinity and sneering at women who prefer more traditional lives or roles. The ridiculous idea that women would be happier within traditional male roles within the rat race, working those hours....It might have been better for a minority of women but its result appears to have made women less, nor more content.

A good mother is an essential building block for any of us and later feminism's deconstruction of these roles has caused untold damage. Instead women should have always have had this role celebrated as the vital and indispensable job it is.

Many women in their late thirties or in their forties listened to feminism and didn't have children. It's a lifestyle 'choice' that most of them have decades to repent on. Most of them will weirdly and wrongly point fingers at men to deflect from their own choices but the reality is that they listened to idealism and short term thinking and it set them on a disastrous road to loneliness and irrelevance.

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the countries with the most career-women are also the countries with the most unaffordable housing.

Leading to a crash in fertility and marriage statistics for the middle classes.

The fertile longterm welfare-class attempt to make up the numbers. To hide a demographic train-wreck.

discuss.

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Feminism reached it's goal, and then pushed for more.

The problem is not about rights anymore. The rights are pretty much established. And this is true for race, disability, and sexuality issues. The problem now is the enforced quotas for employers, and hate laws.

Both are a nonsense.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Feminism reached it's goal, and then pushed for more.


I have to disagree. Given the disproportiante amount of women murdered due to domestic violence in all its forms including honour killings and so on, along with things such as forced marriage and FGM, I would argue that feminism has barely scratched the surface.

Problem for Feminisim is that it focused almost predominantely on the requirements of its most vocal middle class activists, whilst ignoring the plight of working class women who still remain amongst the most vulnerable and ignored segments of our society.

With that only being magnified in this current enviroment. The Right need to start championing women far more now especially since the Left have largely chosen for reasons of identity politics to no longer put the real feminist struggle at the forefront.

 

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Originally posted by Matov


I have to disagree. Given the disproportiante amount of women murdered due to domestic violence in all its forms including honour killings and so on, along with things such as forced marriage and FGM,


Matov, domestic violence isn't a feminist issue, many males suffer it. Honour killings and forced marriage are cultural issues. And murder is pretty much legislated for worldwide. As for genital mutilation, it is used on all orthodox male jews, and nobody blinks an eye, yet FGM is illegal in this country, maybe others which I haven't checked.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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in the US,
the women who work as professors of Women's Studies at all the top universities.....who mows their lawn ?

is the mexican gardener male or female ? likely to also be a Conservative catholic when it comes to family values.

and just who is privileged and who is downtrodden in this relationship ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Oct 2020 9.38pm)

 


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