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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Nov 20 8.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Total humour fail Stirling. Check up the thread. Willo enjoyed it. Why cant you?

As you can see, I did enjoy it.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 20 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Doesn't really change his point though.

Wrecking an economy and civil liberties for a flu without a vaccine with an average death age near life expectancy is irrational.

Well, how much is 7 years of life per person worth?

Then add on the effects of long covid. And consider what would have happened had we simply allowed the virus to run. Then do an NPV calculation and show your workings.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 16 Nov 20 8.40pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am of course no soothsayer but my miniscule cerebral capability foresees a scenario whereby lockdown restrictions are eased prior to the Christmas period resulting in a 'Spike' of infections and 'Lockdown 3' is introduced in the early part of the year which traditionally is a quieter period for the hospitality and retail sectors.

I have previously said this. Restrictions lifted to allow Christmas travel, re-introduced in the New Year

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 16 Nov 20 8.50pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, how much is 7 years of life per person worth?

Then add on the effects of long covid. And consider what would have happened had we simply allowed the virus to run. Then do an NPV calculation and show your workings.

'Long covid' is a misnomer. It's CFS, as I've posted twice before. It is not new. It is also rare.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 16 Nov 20 8.58pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As you can see, I did enjoy it.

Hmm are you playing with me?

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Nov 20 9.00pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Hmm are you playing with me?

Hes just sulking because people actually find me funny.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 16 Nov 20 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Hes just sulking because people actually find me funny.

You may be right but possibly not in the way you think

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Nov 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

You may be right but possibly not in the way you think

Wahey! Nice one.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 16 Nov 20 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Hes just sulking because people actually find me funny.


Dan, you only posted on this thread cos you saw BJ and Cummings in the title

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 20 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Heres a mind bending stat for you. Average age of coronavirus victims in the UK 82.4 years. Average life expectancy in UK = 81.5.

Id say this presents a clear case for not needing lockdowns at all, and especially not lockdown 2.0.

Were spending hundreds and hundreds of billions to prop up people who are going to die of something else very soon anyway. A controversial view no doubt, but its backed up by the stat above.

I waited to see other responses before making mine. For the sake of argument let's assume these stats are correct, even though they have already been shown not to be.

It's inevitable that the more frail a person is the more likely any kind of infection will tip them over the top so hardly very surprising that most of the deaths are currently in the upper age groups.

What do you expect us to do with such people? Lock them all away from any kind of contact with others? It isn't really practical is it? Many require care and even with their carers being very careful they still get infected, whether in their own or care homes. What then? Leave them there to suffer until they die or take them to hospital? I think they and their families might hold a strong opinion about that.

Then there's everyone else. End the lockdown and infections will obviously increase and so will hospital admissions. On their own they would overwhelm the NHS. Some wouldn't get treatment so even more would die, along with most in the oldest age group.

Then there are all the others unable to access NHS services. Undiagnosed cancer. More deaths.

The whole point of a lockdown is to avoid this happening. It's not just to prolong the lives of a few old people.

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 16 Nov 20 9.19pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Dan, you only posted on this thread cos you saw BJ and Cummings in the title

Guilty.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 20 9.50pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

'Long covid' is a misnomer. It's CFS, as I've posted twice before. It is not new. It is also rare.

Then it appears you posted wrong

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They have similarities but are different.

When you say rare, I read 10%. And currently 60,000 have had it for over three months

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How would that be if we just let it rip?

 

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