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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Aug 22 7.17am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I wonder who leaked that to The Mail on Sunday. Given that Government figures have most coming from Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria. And the majority then being granted asylum, so not economic migrants.

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A report nearly a year old!
Let’s talk up to date facts
I know BF Officers who go to the coast on a daily basis to deal with these arrivals, the RN report is accurate, but hey maybe those dealing with them don’t know what they are talking about.
Many of not granted asylum but exceptional leave to remain, which is entirely different.
Mexicans and Hondurans arriving in great numbers daily at Gatwick, none have genuine asylum claims and all have travelled via Spain. Why not claim there, in a country where they speak the language?
It’s a shame that people like to put their own slant on this rather than listen to those that are actually “meeting and greeting” these daily arrivals

Edited by Spiderman (10 Aug 2022 7.17am)

Edited by Spiderman (10 Aug 2022 7.19am)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Aug 22 7.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Or are they claiming to be from those countries?

Many are from these countries, of that there is no doubt and of course, sone are of course fleeing for their lives ( shame many leave the women and children behind).
Others do claim to be a certain nationality when they are not so. No documentation to establish the truth.
Not sure why Gambians, Albanians, feel the need to claim asylum though

 

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W12 10 Aug 22 9.00am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Many are from these countries, of that there is no doubt and of course, sone are of course fleeing for their lives ( shame many leave the women and children behind).
Others do claim to be a certain nationality when they are not so. No documentation to establish the truth.
Not sure why Gambians, Albanians, feel the need to claim asylum though

Free s*** for life?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Aug 22 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Or are they claiming to be from those countries?

Oh FFS.

That is truly clutching at straws. Even you can tell the difference between an Albanian and an Iranian.

These are the 2021 figures

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You will note that Albania doesn't feature at all. As far as I can see, many or most Albanians aren't asylum seekers but are illegals.

In July 2021, Priti Patel signed an agreement with the Albanian Government which would make it easier for the UK to return criminals and unsuccessful asylum seekers back to Albania.

Between April 2015 and April 2019, 6,200 Albanian nationals were deported from the UK to Albania. This was the highest number of any nationality over this period. Many of these deportees are reported to be from the counties of Shkodėr, Kukės and Dibėr, from where British-based drugs gangs recruit.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 11 Aug 22 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh FFS.

That is truly clutching at straws. Even you can tell the difference between an Albanian and an Iranian.

These are the 2021 figures

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You will note that Albania doesn't feature at all. As far as I can see, many or most Albanians aren't asylum seekers but are illegals.

In July 2021, Priti Patel signed an agreement with the Albanian Government which would make it easier for the UK to return criminals and unsuccessful asylum seekers back to Albania.

Between April 2015 and April 2019, 6,200 Albanian nationals were deported from the UK to Albania. This was the highest number of any nationality over this period. Many of these deportees are reported to be from the counties of Shkodėr, Kukės and Dibėr, from where British-based drugs gangs recruit.

So those arriving in boats are not all asylum seekers then? In the early 2000s thousands of Albanians claimed to be Kosovan, as they were being granted due to situation there.
As I have said many times before, it is incredibly difficult to remove those that arrive with no documentation ( the majority) as you need to establish not only real name but also nationality. It is not uncommon for them to claim to beIranian and then when HO try to obtain documentation , they decide they are Iraqi ( and vice versa). Can you imagine the uproar if you removed an Iranian to Iraq

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Oct 22 4.08pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Its not always easy to get at the truth.....

the story below seems to be this :

- 135 Women & Children from Ukraine housed at Killarney, Co Kerry

- told they are being evicted ( to Co Mayo) to make way for 200 men 'asylum seekers' from other countries, including Syria, Georgia, Albania, and seemingly other places.

Public Outcry, & anguish as the kids have 'put down roots in the town', got to know local kids etc.

A Government U-turn.

- Women & children can stay in the Town ?

Is this a correct analysis ?

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View corkery's Profile corkery Flag Cork City 12 Oct 22 8.51pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Its not always easy to get at the truth.....

the story below seems to be this :

- 135 Women & Children from Ukraine housed at Killarney, Co Kerry

- told they are being evicted ( to Co Mayo) to make way for 200 men 'asylum seekers' from other countries, including Syria, Georgia, Albania, and seemingly other places.

Public Outcry, & anguish as the kids have 'put down roots in the town', got to know local kids etc.

A Government U-turn.

- Women & children can stay in the Town ?

Is this a correct analysis ?

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The Ukrainians are running from war. The men are running from UK immigration officers in Birmingham.

 


We'll never die

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Oct 22 8.49am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

So for all those who believe the French are trying to stop this, read about the free bus service!

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Oct 22 9.06am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So for all those who believe the French are trying to stop this, read about the free bus service!

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I thought that was the Royal Navy and the RNLI.

 


One more point

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Oct 22 9.42am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Interesting that the BBC story concentrates on missing migrant children.
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"More than 100 unaccompanied child migrants remain missing after disappearing from UK hotels over a 14-month period, data reveals.

BBC News has discovered that 116 children disappeared between July 2021 and August 2022, after temporarily being put in hotels by the Home Office." (BBC website)

This is really a pop at reporting, which is lax. There are missing people from hotels, but they are only classified as children based on say-so, and all arrive without documentation.
The article then spuriously goes on to speculate that these 'children' are being exploited.

Even The Sun was doing better than this, some time ago.
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Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Oct 2022 9.43am)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Oct 22 10.06am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Interesting that the BBC story concentrates on missing migrant children.
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"More than 100 unaccompanied child migrants remain missing after disappearing from UK hotels over a 14-month period, data reveals.

BBC News has discovered that 116 children disappeared between July 2021 and August 2022, after temporarily being put in hotels by the Home Office." (BBC website)

This is really a pop at reporting, which is lax. There are missing people from hotels, but they are only classified as children based on say-so, and all arrive without documentation.
The article then spuriously goes on to speculate that these 'children' are being exploited.

Even The Sun was doing better than this, some time ago.
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Edited by Forest Hillbilly (13 Oct 2022 9.43am)

Many that claim to be minors, are indeed not so. HO have procedures in place to obtain age assessment but these are very rarely used. If claimed minors arrive they become the responsibility of the Social Services, with regard to accommodation. I know of several placed with local foster families, who abscond on the first night. Worse case scenario was putting a claimed minor with a foster family with teenage daughters. Luckily no harm was done. IMO many of these will no be minors and would be very surprised if an 11yo would have been put into a hotel without a responsible adult accompanying. Some might be exploited, which is horrendous, however you can argue that they have been exploited since leaving their home country

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 13 Oct 22 12.11pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Albanian barbers and candy shop sales people.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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