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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Jan 21 11.11am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

I will read Tom's points when I have a moment to go onto Twitter

Did you read the comments from Sussex University or the French Agency for Food, Environmental and Occupational Health and Safety?

Now, maybe Tom knows things that they do not. I shall look into it. I have no idea what scientific studies he has done.

My point remains the remarkable haste for us to break ranks with the EU, apparently against earlier detailed scientific analysis. And of course that some people in the UK stand to gain considerably by that quick change.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Jan 21 11.12am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Thanks for clarifying she is a student (and the very best of luck to her), not a farmer. Have you read what Tom has to say here? Is he a farmer?

I did not raise this question as a result of a comment from my daughter by the way. I keep an eye on farming social media and this came up this morning. Quite divisive it appears.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 11 Jan 21 11.17am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Here is the link to the petition if anyone interested.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 11 Jan 21 11.31am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

is your daughter part of the Beet generation ?

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 11 Jan 21 11.58am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I will read Tom's points when I have a moment to go onto Twitter

Did you read the comments from Sussex University or the French Agency for Food, Environmental and Occupational Health and Safety?

Now, maybe Tom knows things that they do not. I shall look into it. I have no idea what scientific studies he has done.

My point remains the remarkable haste for us to break ranks with the EU, apparently against earlier detailed scientific analysis. And of course that some people in the UK stand to gain considerably by that quick change.

Reading briefly through that article from the Guardian about it being driven by the NFU, it does state that the relaxation of the ban is only for emergency use to treat a current outbreak of yellow virus, so seemingly not a total overturn on the usage of this stuff.

 


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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 11 Jan 21 12.14pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Of course. If you know anything about me you could have assumed I had looked at the science.

This is about yield. Yields are down due to virus yellows.

It is also about relative harm.

I have yet to be persuaded that the use of neonicatinoids is essential and is appropriate given the damage to the bee population - amongst others. To me profit is being put before sustainability.

Either:

1. The UK is ahead of the game as it can move quickly and be flexible based on the science, or

2. The UK is breaking ranks with the EU for profit, including making sure there isn't a level playing field, regardless of the long-term harm.

Let's be absolutely crystal clear here. This is not the UK going it alone as some rogue state. The following EU countries have requested emergency use:

Austria
Belgium
Croatia
Denmark
Spain
Finland
Lithuania
Poland
Romania
Slovakia

France, in an act of typical EU solidarity has (much like the Germans proclaiming EU unity in joint vaccine procurement whilst ordering a stash just for themselves) decided to approve use anyway:

[Link]

...and when even Jolyon-Moron tells us that it is incorrect to link neonicotinoid to Brexit, you might want to re-adjust your anti-Brexit blinkers.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jan 21 12.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I could be wrong but the way I'm reading the current Brexit legislation, is that if nicitinoids are used in UK farming then the produce would not meet the EU standards and couldn't be exported to the EU. Currently, loads of empty shelves in Ireland. My mate couldn't buy his cheap whiskey the other day!
I always thought there was little profit in beet and it needed to be subsidised. I used to live near a Tate and Lyle beet processing plant, funny smell. I'm presuming beet has made a comeback due to the environment somehow already.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Jan 21 12.37pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Let's be absolutely crystal clear here. This is not the UK going it alone as some rogue state. The following EU countries have requested emergency use:

Austria
Belgium
Croatia
Denmark
Spain
Finland
Lithuania
Poland
Romania
Slovakia

France, in an act of typical EU solidarity has (much like the Germans proclaiming EU unity in joint vaccine procurement whilst ordering a stash just for themselves) decided to approve use anyway:

[Link]

...and when even Jolyon-Moron tells us that it is incorrect to link neonicotinoid to Brexit, you might want to re-adjust your anti-Brexit blinkers.

That is interesting

In that case maybe my original premise is incorrect, I am obliged for the correction. It was the coincidence of timing apparently.

I still maintain that we now have the chance to look at other ways to manage agriculture. This seems a retrograde step to me.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 11 Jan 21 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Note that the use of neonicotinoids means that the land is not allowed to be used for flowering crops for two years thereafter in an effort to minimise the effect on bees.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Jan 21 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


That is interesting

In that case maybe my original premise is incorrect, I am obliged for the correction. It was the coincidence of timing apparently.

Credit for the handling of that.

 


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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 11 Jan 21 3.50pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Credit for the handling of that.

Seconded.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 11 Jan 21 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

That is interesting

In that case maybe my original premise is incorrect, I am obliged for the correction. It was the coincidence of timing apparently.

I still maintain that we now have the chance to look at other ways to manage agriculture. This seems a retrograde step to me.


Have you answered my haircut question yet?

 


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