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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 18 Sep 21 2.15pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

While I think the US and indeed the west were completely justified and compelled to go after IS and indeed not stop until Bin Laden was dead I think any criticisms after that are hard to criticise.

Nation building should never have been part of that.

Yes, the Taliban were part of what had to be punished, however essentially Afghanistan and Iraq were on the 'doable' list....especially Iraq.

When you look at where radical Islam exists it's in pakistan and Saudi. Pressure on Saudi has arguably been effective as IS are no friends of the house of Saud. With pakistan however, they are famously duplicitous and two faced as their intelligence agencies are effectively their own government and work with terror groups as an offshoot of the India/Kashmir conflict....In Afghanistan they were responsible for many an allied death.

The reason Iraq got it and they didn't was much more to do with the possible rather than a proportional response to anti western Islamic terrorism.

Yes, it's not really reasonable to imagine that post 9/11 the reaction would be 'nothing', or measured. I feel though that in classic 'never let a good crisis go to waste' style, their country wide surveillance policy at home and national building abroad essentially acted to the detriment of tens of millions of people who had nothing to do with any of this. And many of those more closely linked to funding radical Islam get away with it on account that they're politically positioned in a way that makes it difficult to do much about it.


 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, it's not really reasonable to imagine that post 9/11 the reaction would be 'nothing', or measured. I feel though that in classic 'never let a good crisis go to waste' style, their country wide surveillance policy at home and national building abroad essentially acted to the detriment of tens of millions of people who had nothing to do with any of this. And many of those more closely linked to funding radical Islam get away with it on account that they're politically positioned in a way that makes it difficult to do much about it.

Agreed.

As much as the media control the narrative, it's hard not to see that for some the ancient saying from Thucydides that, ‘the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must’ remains as true today....in some ways, as it did back then.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 18 Sep 21 9.12pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Agreed.

As much as the media control the narrative, it's hard not to see that for some the ancient saying from Thucydides that, ‘the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must’ remains as true today....in some ways, as it did back then.

Certainly, unfortunately I don't see it changing. If anything all we ever have as the man on the street is hopes for our own particular version of the better day that never comes. Life is best lived on a local level really, because the further beyond that we go the less influence we have. Family, friends, local community, charity. Beyond that, good luck!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Sep 21 7.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I see Trump no wait Biden is deporting thousands of Haitians from the border apparently they've been living under a bridge.

I'm surprised the meeja isn't up in arms.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

I see Trump no wait Biden is deporting thousands of Haitians from the border apparently they've been living under a bridge.

I'm surprised the meeja isn't up in arms.

The event is being reported on somewhat with no criticism of Biden whatsoever. With Trump it would be front page news and he would have a Nazi moustache drawn on his face. No obvious double standards there.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Sep 21 2.52pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Democrats the pro choice party:

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I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 Sep 21 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Arizona “audit” shows trump lost by an even bigger margin.

What a t***.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Arizona “audit” shows trump lost by an even bigger margin.

What a t***.

When conspiracy theory meets reality.

 

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Arizona “audit” shows trump lost by an even bigger margin.

What a t***.

You just carry on watching the television, Maine Eagle.

 

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Biden's doing just great.

US: 194,000 new jobs created (predominantly in Republican states)


UK: 207,000 new jobs created

The UK created more jobs than the US. Well done Joe, well done.

 

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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

The UK created more jobs than the US. Well done Joe, well done.


You conveniently forgot to mention that the UK has one of the highest rates of inflation in Europe, an economy killer. Interest rates will be going up in q1 2022which will hit investment and employment. High wages and high inflation simply makes the UK uncompetitive. Looking at employment numbers in isolation is meaningless.

 


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