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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 12 May 22 9.33am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

but surely we're overlooking the incredibly important point about what message it would send to India and China.......

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 May 22 11.49am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Exactly my point. You can still work towards your green goals but stop punishing the public.

It's not punishing them. It's getting people to realise that the age of cheap energy is over, waste needs to be eliminated and efficiency maximised.

Those who need help should get help. Not though all of us. We have started on a new path and mustn't be blown off course by events, or we will never get to where we must.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 May 22 11.51am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Wrong message to India and China because the UK takes unilateral action on fuel bills, how many moons does your planet have?

In what parallel dimension do India and China give a flying feck?

Via us alone, they won't.

If the rest of the world eases off the pressure, then they won't feel it. We need to lead in this area, and not hide.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 May 22 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yes the other way is not to beleive all the bulls*** and bollox about the climate 'emergency'.
But try finding a scientist with this view who hasn't been cancelled. It appears if you don't beleive its an emergency you are some sort of loon.
Tell you what, put all the carbon and damage to the planets resources caused by going electric into a box.
Then work out how long it takes to offset that number with said green living.

Well because resources and manufacturing of said green living are continuous it probably will never balance. Yes very green!
Do you know a wind turbine takes 60 years to balance the carbon emmisions used to maunufactor it. That's without repairs and maintenance. They won't last 20 years so how on earth do you square that circle?

Do you seriously not accept that man made climate change is happening, and is an emergency? That is a view only held by a few scientists, whose motivations are questionable to say the least.

It's real. I am 100% sure of it.

I have no idea where you get the "60 year pay-back" idea from. 6-9 months is what is generally accepted.

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View W12's Profile W12 Online 13 May 22 4.42pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Do you seriously not accept that man made climate change is happening, and is an emergency? That is a view only held by a few scientists, whose motivations are questionable to say the least.

It's real. I am 100% sure of it.

I have no idea where you get the "60 year pay-back" idea from. 6-9 months is what is generally accepted.

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Yes, not to any significant level - we have had numerous climate scares yet everyone seems to forget even the last one:

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The idea that CO2 is a dangerous "greenhouse gas" is actually laughable. It's literally the gas of life.

Nobody I speak to who believes this junk can tell me what percentage of CO2 is in the atmosphere, how much of it is generated by human activity and how much of that comes from the UK (without looking it up)

Yet we have endless banks and corporations lined up to sell us the solution.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Online Flag Addiscombe West 17 May 22 2.52pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Yes, not to any significant level - we have had numerous climate scares yet everyone seems to forget even the last one:

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The idea that CO2 is a dangerous "greenhouse gas" is actually laughable. It's literally the gas of life.

Nobody I speak to who believes this junk can tell me what percentage of CO2 is in the atmosphere, how much of it is generated by human activity and how much of that comes from the UK (without looking it up)

Yet we have endless banks and corporations lined up to sell us the solution.

Chrissake

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 18 May 22 5.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Yes, not to any significant level - we have had numerous climate scares yet everyone seems to forget even the last one:

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The idea that CO2 is a dangerous "greenhouse gas" is actually laughable. It's literally the gas of life.

Nobody I speak to who believes this junk can tell me what percentage of CO2 is in the atmosphere, how much of it is generated by human activity and how much of that comes from the UK (without looking it up)

Yet we have endless banks and corporations lined up to sell us the solution.

0.0039% co2 in the atmosphere, or 3900 parts per million give or take.
Pretty much the same as 1000 years ago. Still I won’t let facts get in the way of a good taxing

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 May 22 8.54am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

0.0039% co2 in the atmosphere, or 3900 parts per million give or take.
Pretty much the same as 1000 years ago. Still I won’t let facts get in the way of a good taxing

Perhaps this would help you to understand:-

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View W12's Profile W12 Online 18 May 22 9.16am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Chrissake

Ditto

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 May 22 9.18am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Perhaps this would help you to understand:-

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Same reason 5 ice ages occurred and receded?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 May 22 2.09pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Same reason 5 ice ages occurred and receded?

I have never heard any climate scientist try to deny that natural warming and cooling has occurred in the past, and will again. It takes millions of years for these to occur, and we may be in a natural cooling cycle now, which is being mitigated, or over-ridden, by human activity.

The current global warming isn't natural. It's man made, and started when humans began agriculture, but has accelerated since the industrial revolution.

This is happening at speed, and not over millions of years. How we would deal with another ice age is for the future, if we can ensure there is one. We might have to all move to warm locations and eat new sources of food, limit our numbers, or even find a new planet to live on. A few thousand years from now, who knows what might be possible. In a million, even the impossible becomes plausible, like the new stand getting built and Palace winning the Champions League.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 18 May 22 2.11pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have never heard any climate scientist try to deny that natural warming and cooling has occurred in the past, and will again. It takes millions of years for these to occur, and we may be in a natural cooling cycle now, which is being mitigated, or over-ridden, by human activity.

The current global warming isn't natural. It's man made, and started when humans began agriculture, but has accelerated since the industrial revolution.

This is happening at speed, and not over millions of years. How we would deal with another ice age is for the future, if we can ensure there is one. We might have to all move to warm locations and eat new sources of food, limit our numbers, or even find a new planet to live on. A few thousand years from now, who knows what might be possible. In a million, even the impossible becomes plausible, like the new stand getting built and Palace winning the Champions League.

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