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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 06 Feb 21 3.36pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by new_in_Wait

Disappointing (as always) to see so many racists supporting Palace, a team whose best players are black.

You'd be afraid to share a bus with Eze or Wilf or Mitchell.

The difference between Palace and Millwall base seems to be that Millwall fans are actually unhinged enough to have a go at others, whilst Palace fans are mostly 'good old days' keyboard warriors. But identical worldviews.

Sad.

Have I missed something? Who has been racist??

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Feb 21 3.47pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Trying to CONvince the CONtemptible mayor to stop CONning London by CONviently losing his CONtact lenses and CONsequently not seeing anything wrong?

Au CONtraire teddy, try CONvincing the CONservative government that after 10 years at the helm,they should be tough on crime, and tough on the causes of crime, including stopping 16 year olds getting any help if unemployed- as has already been stated by my learned friend the member for medway-the parents or parent might have fcuked off or is treading water themselves!To CONcur, it is the CONservative government we have to look to for answers, unless 10 years isn"t enough time for them to make a plan, any plan?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Feb 21 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Au CONtraire teddy, try CONvincing the CONservative government that after 10 years at the helm,they should be tough on crime, and tough on the causes of crime, including stopping 16 year olds getting any help if unemployed- as has already been stated by my learned friend the member for medway-the parents or parent might have fcuked off or is treading water themselves!To CONcur, it is the CONservative government we have to look to for answers, unless 10 years isn"t enough time for them to make a plan, any plan?

And in the cases where they have enforced the law David Lammy accuses the country of enacting racist policies.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Feb 21 3.57pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And in the cases where they have enforced the law David Lammy accuses the country of enacting racist policies.

Don"t worry about back seat drivers Teddy when you are at the helm, just make sure you deliver the goods and let them rant away, you are the elected driver, you must deliver the goods, let them rant away, the only way to shut them up is deliver the goods- Pritti Pritti, where on earth are you?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 Feb 21 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Might be worth mentioning 2 stabbings in CONservative Chiselhurst last night. Wonder if they were white on black, black on black, black on white, white on white, white on asian, asian on white, asian on black , or black on asian? Also 4 stabbed in CONservative Wandsworth, wonder if it was black on.......Pritti Pritti, where on earth are you?

London policing is the responsibility of Mayor (did I tell you my dad was a bud driver) Khan.

Roll on May I can't wait for the elections.

 


One more point

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Feb 21 4.12pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by new_in_Wait

Disappointing (as always) to see so many racists supporting Palace, a team whose best players are black.

You'd be afraid to share a bus with Eze or Wilf or Mitchell.

The difference between Palace and Millwall base seems to be that Millwall fans are actually unhinged enough to have a go at others, whilst Palace fans are mostly 'good old days' keyboard warriors. But identical worldviews.

Sad.

You are on a wind up right? Nothing I have read suggests anyone is racist, just stating facts. Another poster who thinks people canít support the black players of Palace, because they are appalled at the knife crime in London. Grow up

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 06 Feb 21 4.14pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

London policing is the responsibility of Mayor (did I tell you my dad was a bud driver) Khan.

Roll on May I can't wait for the elections.

Thanks badger, I stand corrected on the stabbings, the mayor should get on the case, but the CONservatives could look at the issues surrounding the crimes, taking away 16 year olds living allowance if they have crap parents and crap homelife or no homelife been one.Im no fan of the mayor, he is as useless as his predecessor, vanity projects and photo opportunities, whether riding bicycles badly or getting stuck up a rope slide!

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 06 Feb 21 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Personally I think the political will is there but the problem is the government don't have the guts to enforce it for fear of upsetting certain communities that's all it is.

I'm sorry you can't compare London and Glasgow knife crime. Totally different issues and certainly nothing to do with one being favoured due to race.

The reasons these lads carry knives in Glasgow and London are for totally different reasons. The two sets of lads literally could be further apart in culture.

Sorry I have to disagree but am more than willing to be corrected.

My understanding of the issue in Glasgow was that they decided to approach the issue as though it were one of a public health crisis and took a multi-agency approach. They decided to try to identify kids in advance who might be most at risk and whilst every case was different, one consistent factor was the lack of adult supervision. Nobody to ask where they were going, who they were going out with, what they had in their pockets and so on.

Once potential risk kids were identified they were targetted. Social services intervention programmes designed to break up the structure of gangs etc along with, and here is where it gets problematic, targetted stop and search by the Police. When these kids were seen out on the streets they stopped and searched. Purely based on this profiling.

And it worked. An incredible success. Yes, there are differences between London and Glasgow but I am confident that the basic tools of the approach would work in London as well.

I know of local councillors who went up to Scotland to take to the people involved and wanted to try similar approaches down here but found themselves being blocked from doing so on no other grounds other than the fact that issue in London is primarily involving black kids.

Black kids are being allowed to die because of their skin colour. I see zero other reason for it. Actual, real racism of the most murderous kind.

But I am all ears as to why I am wrong.

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Sorry I have to disagree but am more than willing to be corrected.

My understanding of the issue in Glasgow was that they decided to approach the issue as though it were one of a public health crisis and took a multi-agency approach. They decided to try to identify kids in advance who might be most at risk and whilst every case was different, one consistent factor was the lack of adult supervision. Nobody to ask where they were going, who they were going out with, what they had in their pockets and so on.

Once potential risk kids were identified they were targetted. Social services intervention programmes designed to break up the structure of gangs etc along with, and here is where it gets problematic, targetted stop and search by the Police. When these kids were seen out on the streets they stopped and searched. Purely based on this profiling.

And it worked. An incredible success. Yes, there are differences between London and Glasgow but I am confident that the basic tools of the approach would work in London as well.

I know of local councillors who went up to Scotland to take to the people involved and wanted to try similar approaches down here but found themselves being blocked from doing so on no other grounds other than the fact that issue in London is primarily involving black kids.

Black kids are being allowed to die because of their skin colour. I see zero other reason for it. Actual, real racism of the most murderous kind.

But I am all ears as to why I am wrong.

No I agree and that was a very informative post so thank you.. But there lies the difference in one thing you said.. Stop and search worked in Scotland because it's not a political hot potato up there... its white cops searching white kids.

Whole different ball game down here and your David Lammys, Diane Abbott and Chami what's her face have to shoulder some blame in my opinion for making it so divisive.

The biggest threat to a young black boys life is another black boy. That's a fact. So I personally can't see how this is racist..

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 06 Feb 21 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot


The biggest threat to a young black boys life is another black boy. That's a fact. So I personally can't see how this is racist..

The racism occurs because a proven formula with regards to dealing with this issue is not being implemented because of skin-colour.

That is actual racism. Treating people differently because of the pigmentation of their skin.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Feb 21 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

There is the Violence Reduction Unit.

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Originally posted by Matov

The racism occurs because a proven formula with regards to dealing with this issue is not being implemented because of skin-colour.

That is actual racism. Treating people differently because of the pigmentation of their skin.

And who is it that's not doing there job and being racist exactly?

 


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