Yes i didn"t bother mentioning that bit but seen as you did, also John Stalker, asked by mrs T to investigate if there was a shoot to kill policy in N.Ireland, he came back and said there was. Got fired, not the answer we wanted!

Another stabbing in west croydon by the station this afternoon, was there an hour earlier, did see a bit of an argument- bloke ripping up receipts and few charity cases telling him to stop, but further up the road, another stabbing, in leafy coulsdon! Omg, it will be in the home counties next!

I believe he was running for the train spider, and they had ample time to stop him as followed him from his flat. He may have been illegal here, but either way, the fact remains they could have stopped him earlier, he was innocent and just going to work, had worked late the night i met him, doing overtime, enough to make him fall asleep on the bus and miss his stop by about a mile or two. Fact remains, the leader of that calamity, cressie, is now the top police officer in this country, thats promotion for one of the biggest police cock ups(something she might not be familiar with), in recent times!

Dick got the top job largely because she is a lesbian woman who spouts the usual politically correct nonsense. The fact that she is incompetent doesn't seem to matter.

Successful black boys grow up with a dad who helped and supported them.

Boys, of all colours, who are out stabbing each other are disproportionately from broken homes. Is it racist to say so ? no.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

You make a good point in that they were acting on what they believed to be true. That may have indeed been wrong, but their intentions were to stop a serious incident and people are fallible. Split second decisions. At the same time I can understand those who highlight that the guys death was an injustice. Both realities can exist simultaneously.

As for 'stop and search'.. in a more general sense it's a tricky call. If we're honest they are stopping who they perceive to match a threat demographic. The balance then comes down to the fact that the majority of people stopped and searched have in fact done nothing wrong. This can result in the same (innocent) people being stopped again and again, and I can see where problems can come up. Jordan Peterson actually echoed this point on Question Time a while back. The idea that any overt or covert racial profiling (which realistically does happen) may well result in more problems than positives.

I was stopped once, for no good reason. If you'd asked me beforehand how I'd have reacted I'd have come out with some kind of 'thanks for your service' take, but the reality is that I did not feel that way at all. So with some multiply that, and add to it the fact that they already feel they're going to get stopped and targeted.. and it highlights real world outcomes that extend well beyond the idea that only troublemakers need worry. It's only part of the picture, as you rightly highlight other meaningful aspects, but it's a perspective worth adding to the mix.

Edited by BlueJay (07 Feb 2021 12.55am)