In the present moment I expect them to compete. I expect the players to come off the field knowing they had given 100% to get a positive result. I expect the aim at the beginning of game is to win, none of this 0-0 is the best we could hope for bollocks.
I expect some positive football, with positive mindset that things can be achieved with ambition.

Being knocked out of both cups each season without even trying is not what I want. Eventually, I'd like it if we actually tried to win something. It's not likely to be the League, let's tell the truth: a League Cup win or even final would be excellent.
Alternatively, to actually have a new stand would be nice. Even to sort out the toilets in the Arthur would be something.

We all became fans at various times: myself 1979-80 Team of the eighties.
Some previous Big Mal promotion and Cup run 70s.
Some from Sir Steve's side 1989-91, some perhaps with the later team with Southgate etc.
However, who'd join our ranks now? No one turns around and says 'I want to support a team that doesn't try to win anything and also looks unlikely to ever win anything. I'll support a team that does anything, just to stay up year on year.' Why would you?
Basic point is we looked like we were trying to win stuff at various stages, we failed but tried. That's the typical Palace feeling. Underdogs, exciting play, a few surprises. Not cynical stay up at all costs dross, certainly not at the expense of us ever being able to win anything.
I want a football ocassion once in a while, the ocassions we've all had before. Wembley, play offs, Cup runs, 3rd. Park the bus against relegation dross?! No thanks, if I was a neutral I'd support someone else. We won't have picked up many fans from this period: if any. We're the footballing equivalent of Top Gear before Clarkson.

Very satisfied with Palace under Roy Hodgson.

We have over-performed and people here with fond memories have forgotten the relegations that accompanied them.

Palace had the odd moments of glory but were serial relegation specialists often only lasting a season in the PL.

Now we have another PL season in prospect with over 30 points still to play for.

Our most successful season ever.

Good grief

We will almost certainly survive another season and that is a great achievement.
Our football is not Rolls Royce but has it ever been?

Yes we had a great spell under Coppell and some exciting player on occasion but this is a different era with a much higher standard of fitness and pace. Our 'team of the eighties' was bang average as well by today's standards and the players nowhere near as athletic.
I watched an old game on TV the other day and none of them looked like they had ever seen a lat' pull down in their lives.
The simple fact is that survival is our best objective until a major economic change occurs at the club. Until that day arrives, it has to be reluctantly admitted that Roy's rather annoying pragmatism is exactly what we need, boring or not.
Next season is a watershed moment for the club in terms of direction and we don't want any more de Boer disasters.

What exactly did de Boer do wrong? I was under the impression that Parish wanted a change in style, possession based. I presume due diligence was applied and the job spec perfectly explained. Because the players couldn't adapt Parish in desperation reached for the only manager available on short notice, one who probably wouldn't have worked again given the debacle against Iceland.
And here we still are.

For starters he lost all the games in which he was in charge.

I don't think that alone was the reason for sacking him though. But it's the only piece that we actually see.

If you buy into the school of thought that the radical change in playing style was too much for our players to cope with, it may help your understanding of why we continue to play the way we do under Hodgson. Who ,like it or not, delivers results.