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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 31 Mar 21 11.19am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Murder one.

The video evidence clearly shows it.

Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove.

He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 31 Mar 21 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Probably depends upon the severity of the charge.

Nope. US criminal law innit. Majority verdicts used to be possible only in Louisiana or Oregon. A matter of much current debate in the US. Unanimity is now required in all states

In England, by contrast, the position remains that non-unanimous majority verdicts are permitted if the jury is deadlocked 11-1 or 10-2.

Edited by Mapletree (31 Mar 2021 12.51pm)

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Nope. US criminal law innit. Majority verdicts used to be possible only in Louisiana or Oregon. A matter of much current debate in the US. Unanimity is now required in all states

In England, by contrast, the position remains that non-unanimous majority verdicts are permitted if the jury is deadlocked 11-1 or 10-2.

Edited by Mapletree (31 Mar 2021 12.51pm)

Cheers, useful to know.

Now I know which states to avoid when committing difficult to prove murders.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Mar 21 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


A bit of background unanimous verdicts.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 31 Mar 21 1.34pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Murder one.

The video evidence clearly shows it.

Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove.

He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of.

Saw on sky one of the 3 witnesses on scene, a firefighter and trained medic, wanted to give medical assistance to George as she could see he needed it but the poooooooliceman wouldn"t let her near him,doesn"t look great for the feds having a trained firefighter letting them know he needs medical assistance, a great witness.

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 31 Mar 21 2.51pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

I don't understand why he is allowed bail ? Turns up suited and looks like an eterney?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 21 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Sometimes wissy you show naivety but I beleive its for a reaction and you know fully what you write.
I reckon you must be playing games and hold up Flash cards with our response just as you post.
And today you have a winner!

Edited by cryrst (31 Mar 2021 10.12am)

There is nothing naive involved in arguing for a fair trial in which only the evidence matters. Don't you agree with that?

What would be naive is expecting that to happen in this case but as I don't, I am not.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Mar 21 3.32pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, Whites have died during police restraints, one of which I've seen on video and not only didn't you see the massive media outcry you don't get riots. You also don't see murder convictions.

The racial dynamic is a political device used by the progressives against the right and you're correct. If the guy dying is white they don't care about it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Mar 2021 11.07am)

Context matters.

The truth matters.

Let the court decide on the evidence and let the debate continue elsewhere over whether the reaction to the death was proportionate to its context.

That Floyd's death sparked such a worldwide reaction has to mean something other than just the right getting upset over an idea that "progressives" are playing politics. Anger of that sort is not generated simply by political games. It is real. That it was then exploited does nothing to minimise that strength of feeling.

Of course any death in custody is a tragedy but not every death in custody is equally newsworthy. It does depend on context, whether you like it or not.

The context has nothing to do with the victim's skin colour, although I doubt very much whether you will understand why. It depends upon their strata in society and whether their treatment was impacted by it. That's important. Their skin colour is not.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (31 Mar 2021 3.33pm)

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 01 Apr 21 11.21pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Murder one.

The video evidence clearly shows it.

Pre-meditation I think so but difficult to prove.

He will get off lightly compared to the man he squeezed the life out of.

Itís going to be hard to prove he intended to kill the bloke.

He left the knee on after he was clearly unconscious, which is pretty hard to defend but they may struggle to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he tried to intentionally kill him.

That is unless they can unearth some Stirling Says esque views on racial equality, on some website somewhere, that Chauvin authored.

He will go down for manslaughter.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Apr 21 8.58am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Hopefully everyone will agree that this killing by Police is probably justified

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Apr 21 9.00am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Itís going to be hard to prove he intended to kill the bloke.

He left the knee on after he was clearly unconscious, which is pretty hard to defend but they may struggle to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he tried to intentionally kill him.

That is unless they can unearth some Stirling Says esque views on racial equality, on some website somewhere, that Chauvin authored.

He will go down for manslaughter.

I agree with you that only manslaughter seems probable. Unfortunately I do not see that will appease many, baton down the hatches!

Edited by Spiderman (03 Apr 2021 9.05am)

Edited by Spiderman (03 Apr 2021 9.09am)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 03 Apr 21 9.23am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Hopefully everyone will agree that this killing by Police is probably justified

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Blm will let you know soon enough.

 

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